华新 - 2009年新加坡全国象棋锦标赛！

在碧山的大作中提到：

how many of the names below are in this year competition ? 2008 5 廖铭濠 6 庄才钧 7 李瑞光 8 王印 9 洪培荣 10 王相赋 2007 5 张友彬 6 廖铭濠 7 陈贤凯 8 赵金山 9 许永坤 (promoted in 2008) 10 洪培荣

Strange, am I being registered by anyone?

I can hardly find time to go Bishan and register. How come Bishan said that I am in the competition already?

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在 xiaobeidou 的大作中提到：

棋一生真的不错不是假的想起2007年全国赛跟棋一生交手，那时候我是先手在时间上前十多步亏了40分钟。开局也没先手，可是他不幸超时不然那个棋还真不好赢我还要亏一点。黄荣岳甲级也说过棋一生发疯的时候还下得很好。最近好久没上华新也是因为考试的原因，看到棋一生每天发那些象棋的贴还有越南的对局让我觉得很敬佩。尤其是身体比较弱。请你多保重身体。很可惜你很国龙没下，他的残棋下得比较厉害。

谢谢你的夸奖！

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在碧山的大作中提到：

Todate, more than 30 players for the 3 groups, 2 more weeks to go ....for the registration. Please note the closing date for registration is 21 Jun 2009 at 9 pm. Group A -- 5 players. Group B -- 27 players. Ladies -- 1 player.

2008 and 2007 Group B Results ........

2008 Group B Results ........

http://v15.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_11041147

2007 Group B Results ........

http://v15.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_10907562

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赞同

我对他的比赛对局，印象中几乎没有前半盘便宜的。后半盘往往是因为他走漏。棋一生近年来主要亏在体力，棋力仍属一流高手。一句话，比赛里面，主要也就亏在体力，以及花费太多精神在布局上面。

卢国龙今年不参加？

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在碧山的大作中提到：

todate close to 50 players with 7 in Group A .......

朱永吉洪天瑞刘剑慧曹子航许永坤刘再成黄俊阳 ......

Please note the closing date for registration is 21 Jun 2009 at 9 pm.

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todate close to 50 players with 7 in Group A ....... 朱永吉洪天瑞刘剑慧曹子航许永坤刘再成黄俊阳 ...... Please note the closing date for registration is 21 Jun 2009 at 9 pm.

七年来参加全国赛人数 .........

七年来参加全国赛人数：

2003 年A组22人, B组84人；

2004 年A组24人, B组67人；

2005 年不分组45人[包括有级棋手14人]；(无级棋手31人)

2006 年不分组56人[包括有级棋手22人]；(无级棋手34人)

2007 年A组28人, B组40人；

2008 年A组22人, B组58人；

2009 年A组?人, B组?人；

(todate 2009 B组 at least more than 40 players, better than years 2005 to 2007[无级棋手31, 34 and 40]； regarding A组, the average figures per year for 有级棋手 was 22人 during years 2003 to 2008.)

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todate close to 50 players with 7 in Group A ....... 朱永吉洪天瑞刘剑慧曹子航许永坤刘再成黄俊阳 ...... Please note the closing date for registration is 21 Jun 2009 at 9 pm.

todate close to 60, one more week to go .....

Group A -- 9 players.

Group B -- 47 players.

Ladies -- 2 players.

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七年来参加全国赛人数 ......... 七年来参加全国赛人数： 2003 年A组22人, B组84人； 2004 年A组24人, B组67人； 2005 年不分组45人[包括有级棋手14人]；(无级棋手31人) 2006 年不分组56人[包括有级棋手22人]；(无级棋手34人) 2007 年A组28人, B组40人； 2008 年A组22人, B组58人； 2009 年A组?人, B组?人； (todate 2009 B组 at least more than 40 players, better than years 2005 to 2007[无级棋手31, 34 and 40]； regarding A组, the average figures per year for 有级棋手 was 22人 during years 2003 to 2008.)

公开A组 ........... some suggestions for future years ....

When can we have at least 30 players and Top 12 to be promoted again ?

There were 22 graded players average per year during 2003 to 2008 with the maximum of 28 graded players in 2007 Group A.

there are 9 players (4 Grade As and 5 Grade Bs) registered for 2009 Group A so far ......(21 Jun 2009 is the closing date.)

what is the minimum number of players for Group A to proceed (10 or more ?) ?

what is the maximum number of players for Group A to have 7 rounds (less than 20 ?) ?

what is the minimum number of players for Group A to have 9 rounds (20 or more ?) ?

Since when Top 8 instead of Top 12 will be promoted ?

Next year, could we have somethings like below :

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If there are at least 15 players, 6 will be promoted if there are 6 or more Grade A players. 7 rounds (swiss pairing) will be used.

some other sets of figures could be :

10, 4, 4, 9 (round robin)

20, 8, 8, 9 (swiss pairing), less number of prizes and amounts too if number of players less than 20.

25, 10, 10, 9 (swiss pairing)

30, 12, 12, 11 (swiss pairing)

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One possible set of figures in future could be 30 players including 10 Grade A players, in 11 rounds (swiss pairing) will have Top 10 promoted, prizes could still be 8 only.

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大师 and 甲级 promoted during 2002 to 2008 listed below :

http://v15.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_11067445

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公开A组 ........... some suggestions for future years .... When can we have at least 30 players and Top 12 to be promoted again ? There were 22 graded players average per year during 2003 to 2008 with the maximum of 28 graded players in 2007 Group A. there are 9 players (4 Grade As and 5 Grade Bs) registered for 2009 Group A so far ......(21 Jun 2009 is the closing date.) what is the minimum number of players for Group A to proceed (10 or more ?) ? what is the maximum number of players for Group A to have 7 rounds (less than 20 ?) ? what is the minimum number of players for Group A to have 9 rounds (20 or more ?) ? Since when Top 8 instead of Top 12 will be promoted ? Next year, could we have somethings like below : ------------------------------------------------------------------- If there are at least 15 players, 6 will be promoted if there are 6 or more Grade A players. 7 rounds (swiss pairing) will be used. some other sets of figures could be : 10, 4, 4, 9 (round robin) 20, 8, 8, 9 (s (more...)

If Top 12 to be promoted ........ we could have 6 more Grade A .......

If Top 12 to be promoted ........ we could have 6 more Grade As below in the last 4 years .......

李国华许重荣洪安豪梁文杰郑木兴姚威和

In actual fact, we had only total of FIVE Master/Grade A promoted in the last 4 years.

2005 黄俊铭 -- Master
邱冠杰 -- Grade A

2006 杨高正 -- Grade A

2007 吴宗翰 -- Master

2008 黄荣岳 -- Grade A

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Grade Bs in the Top 12 during 2005 to 2008 .....

2005

9 李国华
10 许重荣
11 洪安豪

2006

9 梁文杰

11 郑木兴

2007

None

2008

9 梁文杰

11 姚威和

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在碧山的大作中提到：

So far 2008 Group B positions 5, 6, 8, 9 and 10 ........... So far 2008 Group B positions 5, 6, 8, 9 and 10 are 5 out of the 27 Group B players this year. Positions 1 to 4 promoted to Group A.

So far 2008 Group A only Position 3 in Top 10 registered.......

吴宗翰
黄荣岳
朱永吉 (registered)
吕瑞展
熊国玮
黄俊铭
胡海宇
康德荣
梁文杰
邱冠杰

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在棋一生的大作中提到：

章程略有修改，请有意参赛的棋手们仔细阅读！1 棋赛宗旨：促进象棋活动；提高棋艺水平。 2 主办机构：新加坡象棋总会。 3 比赛日期：2009年6月26日（星期五）至7月12日（仅于星期五、星期六与星期日举行）。详见《比赛时间表》 4 比赛地点：新加坡象棋总会，51 Bishan St 13,#01-01 电话：62590984 。 5 参赛组别：分为公开A组、B组与女子组。 6 比赛资格： -凡新加坡公民、永久居民、持就业准则、学生准证或学生准证者皆可参加。 -具有象棋大师、甲级棋士或乙级棋士称号者，才能参加公开A组。 -公开B组只限其他无等级称号人士参加。女子组只限女性参加。 7 报名手续： -参赛者须填妥报名表，并付报名费与押金，经审核后方为有效。 -报名费：公开A组$50；B组$20；女子组$10. -21岁以下在籍学生和60岁以上人士，报名费减半。 -象棋总会会员（01/04/09以前入会者）免交报名费。 -押金：公开A组$50；公开B组$30.完成赛程可取回押金；缺席两轮则押金没收。 -报名期限：即日起至6月21日晚上9时。逾期一概不受理。 -报名处：新加坡象棋总会，51 Bishan St 13,#01-01 电话：62590984 。 8 比赛制度： -公开A组采用瑞士积分一局制，轮数视人数而定。 -公开B组的比赛分成两个阶段：全体比赛员先进行七轮积分编� (more...)

suggest to proceed with Group A with the changes in 奖金 ........

for 公开A组, if there are at least 10 players, suggest to proceed with changes in 奖金 ........

if there are 20 players or more, no changes to 奖金：

冠军-$1200、亚军-$900、季军-$700、殿军-$500、第5名-$300、第6名-$200、第7名-$100、第8名-$100

if there are 15 to 19 players, changes to 奖金：

冠军-$900、亚军-$700、季军-$500、殿军-$300、第5名-$200、第6名-$100

if there are 10 to 14 players, changes to 奖金：

冠军-$700、亚军-$500、季军-$300、殿军-$200

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suggest to proceed with Group A with the changes in 奖金 ........ for 公开A组, if there are at least 10 players, suggest to proceed with changes in 奖金 ........ if there are 20 players or more, no changes to 奖金：冠军-$1200、亚军-$900、季军-$700、殿军-$500、第5名-$300、第6名-$200、第7名-$100、第8名-$100 if there are 15 to 19 players, changes to 奖金：冠军-$900、亚军-$700、季军-$500、殿军-$300、第5名-$200、第6名-$100 if there are 10 to 14 players, changes to 奖金：冠军-$700、亚军-$500、季军-$300、殿军-$200

呜呼哀哉！如果接纳这样的建议，要象总理事诸公如何面对棋友啊！

说话不算话，讲话没有口齿，朝令夕改，这要叫象总理事诸公往后如何取面对众多的棋友啊！
个别棋手可能因为工作忙碌、身体状况欠佳、其他私人的事务或奖金不够丰厚，没有报名参赛。如果有某个团体主办棋赛时可以因为参赛人数少而随随便便就减低奖金，相信已报名的棋友一定感到非常失望与懊恼，往后他们还会相信那个团体吗？以后该团体如果有主办任何棋赛，他们还有谁敢提前报名，大家一定是你等我我等你，到最后一分钟看奖金是多少才来决定是否要报名，以免吃亏。
纵横棋坛数十年，我还没有看过有哪个团体主办棋赛时因报名参赛的棋手人数少而减低奖金数额的！曾经有听说过有个别的棋赛颁发奖金时现金变成礼券，造成棋手们怨声载道。作为象总理事的一份子，我个人希望这样的事件不会发生在象总主办的棋赛，除非是赛前已先列明。

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在棋一生的大作中提到：

呜呼哀哉！如果接纳这样的建议，要象总理事诸公如何面对棋友啊！说话不算话，讲话没有口齿，朝令夕改，这要叫象总理事诸公往后如何取面对众多的棋友啊！个别棋手可能因为工作忙碌、身体状况欠佳、其他私人的事务或奖金不够丰厚，没有报名参赛。如果有某个团体主办棋赛时可以因为参赛人数少而随随便便就减低奖金，相信已报名的棋友一定感到非常失望与懊恼，往后他们还会相信那个团体吗？以后该团体如果有主办任何棋赛，他们还有谁敢提前报名，大家一定是你等我我等你，到最后一分钟看奖金是多少才来决定是否要报名，以免吃亏。纵横棋坛数十年，我还没有看过有哪个团体主办棋赛时因报名参赛的棋手人数少而减低奖金数额的！曾经有听说过有个别的棋赛颁发奖金时现金变成礼券，造成棋手们怨声载道。作为象总理事的一份子，我个人希望这样的事件不会发生在象总主办的棋赛，除非是赛前已先列明。

do you know ..........

if you like others to give suggestions, you can discuss and then say this suggestion is not accepted or not practical.

This is not the way to shoot down a suggestion.

My suggestion may be more for future years but I have the concern that if this year Group A is not on due to number of players less than say 20 but more than 10.

if you do not like others to give suggestions, then I just stop here.

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do you know .......... if you like others to give suggestions, you can discuss and then say this suggestion is not accepted or not practical. This is not the way to shoot down a suggestion. My suggestion may be more for future years but I have the concern that if this year Group A is not on due to number of players less than say 20 but more than 10. if you do not like others to give suggestions, then I just stop here.

现金变成礼券 -- some clarifications ......

Please refer to the two previous posts in 悟入棋途 below : --

Official Information on 第1届碧山杯全国选区象棋团体赛

http://v15.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_10967694

Schedule Updated -- up to 17 cash prizes in total of $900 and 29 trophies....

http://v15.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_10993027

After the close of registration in end Jan 2008, we had 57 players registered, with the official information, we could keep to the total of $430 for 9 prizes and 9 trophies as stated in the rules.

Why increase to " up to 17 cash prizes in total of $900 and 29 trophies...." ?

Why provide buffet for 2 days since it was not in the plan ?

Why provide souvenir to all players and workers ?

Of course, 现金变成礼券, it was a serious administrative error, I could refuse to accept those vouchers and let the players to contact the office especially when I was given those vouchers just a few minutes before the prize-giving, instead, I made apologies to all players on the spot.

Our believes --

players like to join competitions and do not really care about the prizes especially for events related to Chinese Cultural Festival.

I really have disappointments with those players bring up 现金变成礼券 again and again .... :(

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在碧山的大作中提到：

现金变成礼券 -- some clarifications ...... Please refer to the two previous posts in 悟入棋途 below : -- Official Information on 第1届碧山杯全国选区象棋团体赛 http://v15.huasing.org/bbs.php?B=123_10967694 Schedule Updated -- up to 17 cash prizes in total of $900 and 29 trophies.... http://v15.huasing.org/bbs.php?B=123_10993027 After the close of registration in end Jan 2008, we had 57 players registered, with the official information, we could keep to the total of $430 for 9 prizes and 9 trophies as stated in the rules. Why increase to " up to 17 cash prizes in total of $900 and 29 trophies...." ? Why provide buffet for 2 days since it was not in the plan ? Why provide souvenir to all players and workers ? Of course, 现金变成礼券, it was a serious administrative error, I could refuse to accept those vouchers and let the players to contact the office especially when I was given those vouchers just a few minutes before the prize-giving, instead, I made apologies to all players on the spot. Our beli (more...)

别太敏感，现金变礼券棋手指的不是你的团体！

现金变礼券的还有其他的团体。你曾经跟棋友们解释过，他们明白你的苦衷。

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