(引用 Blzrd:第一第二第三世界国家，我记得是西方一个什么学家在上世纪的初创吧，咋成老毛的了？也许俺老记忆有误哈。。 )老毛发明与人斗，老邓摸石头，老江与时进，老胡不折腾，大大撸袖子[Flag888 (6-8 12:37, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]41楼
(引用 Flag888:老毛发明与人斗，老邓摸石头，老江与时进，老胡不折腾，大大撸袖子)哈哈，这个顺口溜俺稀罕。。 [Blzrd (6-8 12:39, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]42楼
(引用 Blzrd:中肯，本地一个16岁的男孩，被错打了18岁以上才能打的moderna, 看到这新闻不知说啥好。。 )这个我也是非常不理解生日和身份证对不上系统应该会提醒出错才对。就算系统年龄填写错误，现场也应该检查核对身份证吧。[油菜花开了 (6-8 12:44, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]43楼
来来来，看看昨天政府贴出的辟谣EXPERT COMMITTEE ON COVID-19 VACCINATION CONTINUES TO ENDORSE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE MRNA COVID-19 VACCINES
7TH JUN 2021
The Expert Committee on COVID-19 Vaccination (EC19V) recommended that the messenger RNA-based (“mRNA”) COVID-19 vaccines – Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines - be used in Singapore following the authorisation of both vaccines by the Health Science Authority (HSA) under the Pandemic Special Access Route (PSAR). We have noted social media messages asserting that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are ineffective against Variants of Concern (VOCs) and that inactivated virus COVID-19 vaccines would provide superior protection. Our assessment, based on a continual review of data and evidence, remains that the PSAR-authorised mRNA vaccines are safe and highly effective, and continue to show protection against the VOCs. The inactivated virus COVID-19 vaccines have variable protection and there is currently no evidence to suggest that inactivated virus vaccines demonstrate higher vaccine efficacy against VOCs than the mRNA vaccines.
PSAR-Authorised mRNA Vaccines Are Safe and Effective Against COVID-19
2 The Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna mRNA vaccines have been consistently shown to be highly efficacious, at around 90%, especially in protecting against severe COVID-19 disease and hospitalisation. This was first demonstrated in the pivotal Phase 3 clinical trials, and further supported with the data from actual roll-outs in the real-world, including in the United States (US), the United Kingdom (UK) and Israel. This includes protection against key VOCs such as the alpha and beta variants, which were the predominant strains circulating in these countries.
3 Despite concerns over the delta variant, emerging data shows that the mRNA vaccines continue to be effective. A study in the UK demonstrated that two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA vaccine confer about 88% protection against symptomatic COVID-19 even with the delta variant. While further studies are required before a definitive conclusion can be made, the available data globally indicates that substantial protection is preserved.
4 Protection conferred by any vaccine is not 100%, and with the emergence and spread of new variants due to mutations, vaccine-breakthrough infections can occur. The detection of asymptomatic to mild infections locally with the delta variant does not indicate a lack of protection. The finding that the infections have been asymptomatic to mild in symptoms is in keeping with the global evidence that the mRNA vaccines have a high level of protection against symptomatic and severe disease.
5 The Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines have been approved by multiple reputable international regulatory bodies. The manufacturers have publicly released their detailed study protocols and openly published their findings to be scrutinised by the scientific community after peer review. The detailed assessments of their vaccines by regulatory bodies such as the US Food and Drug Administration and the UK Medicines & Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency have also been publicly published.
6 In sum, the PSAR-authorised mRNA vaccines have reliable scientific evidence that they are safe and effective, and the EC19V continues to strongly recommend that medically eligible persons should be vaccinated with them.
COVID-19 Inactivated Virus Vaccines
7 The Sinovac vaccine has yet to meet the requirements for a PSAR authorisation by HSA as additional safety and quality data required to meet the standards of the PSAR evaluation are still pending. The Sinovac vaccine has also shown variable protection across multiple studies carried out internationally. The most complete analysis of the vaccine showed a vaccine efficacy of 51% on per-protocol analysis. The protection of Sinovac against newer variants such as the delta variant and under real-world conditions remains unknown.
8 Sinovac has been qualified by WHO under its Emergency Use Listing (EUL) Procedure for use only in persons aged 18 years and above. WHO does not recommend it for use in persons below age 18 years. As such, it is currently not an option for children and adolescents globally nor in Singapore under the Special Access Route (SAR).
9 It is critical that medical professionals do not spread unsubstantiated and unscientific information. The public has a right to expect medical professionals to give advice based on fact and not on unproven assertions. The public should rely on reputable sources of scientific and medical information, and verify opinions shared by others against these. The PSAR-authorised mRNA vaccines are safe and effective, and the EC19V recommends that medically eligible persons in Singapore should be vaccinated with them.
EXPERT COMMITTEE ON COVID-19 VACCINATION
7 JUNE 2021
Sinovac靠啥逆袭，就靠那51%的有效率？政府能批准才怪。老铁赶快自己掏钱去打啦，别整天在这里唧唧歪歪了，等会其他真老铁把那20万疫苗用光了[edb (6-8 12:47, Long ago)]
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(引用 edb:来来来，看看昨天政府贴出的辟谣EXPERT COMMITTEE ON COVID-19 VACCINATION CONTINUES TO ENDORSE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE MRNA COVID-...)路透社报道科兴日产疫苗逾600万剂，新加坡再多人打也不够塞牙缝的。。。 [Blzrd (6-8 12:51, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]45楼
疫苗是物理隔离防疫的辅助辉瑞，莫德纳的疫苗从开始的97%在逐渐下降，
而且心肌炎的问题也逐渐浮出水面，
所以我说科兴的疫苗让你知道下限，会低开高走。
但是解决疫情的关键还是物理隔离，疫苗只是辅助，
如果有变异疫苗会随之变化，但某种疫苗永留身体。[lgland (6-8 12:56, Long ago)]
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我说的某些喷子上线了，比我预测的早太多了本土土生公民专业人士自己都干起来了。
押宝美国就直说好了。
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欧美洋人要自由啊，没疫苗跟坐牢差不多了新加坡人还是能够好好听话的。 [本文发送自华新手机Wap版] [andy99 (6-8 12:58, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]48楼
英国已经预警了，病毒可能会出现Super mutant variants。。不知有谁比较懂ADE的。。。 [Blzrd (6-8 13:05, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]49楼
关键是口罩问题让这些专家信用全失，辟谣似乎没有什么效果，
而且医生也在争论[lgland (6-8 13:06, Long ago)]
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在新加坡逆袭不能说明什么能经得住变异的考验和长期副作用考验的疫苗，才算逆袭。
数据再漂亮，也要靠实践验证，比如这次陈笃生医院和机场感染群，就给实验数据打了个大大的问号。
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MRNA未来癌症要看病是自己花钱。
看来看去假如非要打，也只有科兴。
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[小土 (6-8 13:53, Long ago)]
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(引用 小土:MRNA未来癌症要看病是自己花钱。 看来看去假如非要打，也只有科兴。)你这结论有啥根据？[edb (6-8 14:03, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]53楼
上过学吗只能大概率说明xx都集中到这了[牛的三猫 (6-8 14:47, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]54楼
(引用 小土:MRNA未来癌症要看病是自己花钱。 看来看去假如非要打，也只有科兴。)对，科兴是唯一的救世主只有科兴才能救世界[牛的三猫 (6-8 14:57, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]55楼
(引用 牛的三猫:对，科兴是唯一的救世主只有科兴才能救世界)我觉得从数据走不知道大家为啥不能给科兴肯定。
为啥不可以对mRNA 说不。
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[小土 (6-8 14:58, Long ago)]
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(引用 小土:我觉得从数据走不知道大家为啥不能给科兴肯定。 为啥不可以对mRNA 说不。)因为某些喷子，要么就是坡县政府说啥就是啥，要么就是美国说啥就是啥上面那位刚蹦跶出来的，还不好判断是哪种 [本文发送自华新手机Wap版] [andy99 (6-8 15:00, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]57楼
对了，还有某些喷子可能是中国说啥，就不是啥。 [本文发送自华新手机Wap版] [andy99 (6-8 15:02, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]58楼
(引用 小土:我觉得从数据走不知道大家为啥不能给科兴肯定。 为啥不可以对mRNA 说不。)我也不知道为什么实践证明的东西为什么非要诋毁否认，纯靠吹出来的东西那么多xx深信不疑[牛的三猫 (6-8 15:02, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]59楼
(引用 andy99:因为某些喷子，要么就是坡县政府说啥就是啥，要么就是美国说啥就是啥上面那位刚蹦跶出来的，还不好判断是哪种)还有一种你忘了就是他大大说啥就是啥的洗脑狗[牛的三猫 (6-8 15:03, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]60楼