a dead/live problemBlack first. This one is difficult IMHO. [lfaker (5-24 21:27, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]1楼

what's the result?劫杀？[Komi (5-24 22:25, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]2楼

(引用 Komi:what's the result?劫杀？)i feel 1S is the first move, but later... hmmm[Komi (5-24 22:36, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]3楼

let me try now solution 1: 1S, 2T, 1P, 1Q, 1N, 1M, 1K

solution 2: 1S, 1N, 3T, 4T, 2T, 4S, 1Q[Komi (5-24 22:50, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]4楼

(引用 Komi:let me try now solution 1: 1S, 2T, 1P, 1Q, 1N, 1M, 1K solution 2: 1S, 1N, 3T, 4T, 2T, 4S, 1Q)almost correct, butwhen 1S,2T,1P,
white resist at 1M.

pls continue. add oil!
[lfaker (5-25 13:30, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]5楼

(引用 lfaker:almost correct, butwhen 1S,2T,1P, white resist at 1M. pls continue. add oil! )黑先劫 1S, 2T, 1P, 1M, 1K, 1R, 1N

is that right?

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hint: white die unconditionally[lfaker (5-25 17:51, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]7楼

(引用 lfaker:hint: white die unconditionally)ok, so it is. 1S, 2T, 1P, 1M, 1K, 1R, 1Q, 3T, 1R, 1T, 2R

As i have mentioned, 1S is the most important move.

1M is the most resistant move for White.

After Black puts at 1K, White have to go to 1R.

Black takes away White 1R, then it's easy to see a Ju Yan Sha

forms.

Is it correct?

Komi[Komi (5-26 10:36, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]8楼

(引用 Komi:ok, so it is. 1S, 2T, 1P, 1M, 1K, 1R, 1Q, 3T, 1R, 1T, 2R As i have mentioned, 1S is the most important move. 1M is the most r...)Correct![lfaker (5-26 12:06, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]9楼

(引用 lfaker:Correct!)怎么会呢？白接着下1R依然是劫活啊，
黑的第二步应该先扳在k1才对，[格格巫 (5-26 12:35, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]10楼

(引用 lfaker:Correct!)对不起，看错了，应该是1S, 2T, 1P, 1M, 1K, 1R, 1Q, 3T, 1R, 1T, 1P

[格格巫 (5-26 13:11, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]11楼

(引用 格格巫:怎么会呢？白接着下1R依然是劫活啊， 黑的第二步应该先扳在k1才对，)hmm, quite right. so what is the correct answer?[Komi (5-26 13:11, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]12楼

(引用 格格巫:对不起，看错了，应该是1S, 2T, 1P, 1M, 1K, 1R, 1Q, 3T, 1R, 1T, 1P )不好意思，你差不多是对的[格格巫 (5-26 13:14, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]13楼