Got job offer from Deloitte, any seniors in deloitte or other big 4?I am an EE fresh graduate from NUS, my job offer is Associate Consultant. The job scope is about financial IT consultancy, mainly focus on IT security for banking and other MNCs. I have quite some questions to ask: 1. The starting pay at deloitte is quite low, i.e. 2000 per month. The manager there told me it's standard for fresh graduate as we dont have exp, no matter you r a 1st class honor holder or have bad results like me. Is that true? 2. What will be the expected salary after two years of working? The manager there told me usually ppl are promoted from Associate Consultant to Consultant 3 after 2 years of working. 3. How is the competition and turnover at deloitte or similar companies? At such a low monthly pay, is it a big risk to enter the company then fail in the competition and end with empty hand? 4. Someone says to me although the monthly salary is low, the end-year bonus at this kind of accounting firm is usually over 6 month salary. Is that true? My deadline for acceptance of the job offer is next Mon so the thing is really urgent. As an EE fresh grad, I am not very sure how the life is like in such a financial accounting company. Really need some insight knowledge and ppl with working exp to give some suggestions on this. You can post the reply here or send an email to my email box at lihao82@gmail.com, or add lihao82@gmail.com to ur MSN. I will buy you a treat if your suggestion is helpful^^. [babydntcry (6-30 13:21, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]1楼

Maybe you can't learn much about technical skills there...This is what I feel. As a fresh graduate, you don't have experience, and the company emphasize on accounting business. So probably you are like transparent in the company, or less important comparing with other staff. And because of the scope, you won't have much to learn.

Anyway, this is my perception... maybe wrong...[anonym (6-30 15:20, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]2楼

my,turnover is high, six month bonus is impossible. annual increment is high, at least for auditors, after three year pay will be 3.5k/m.IT audit is part of their bread and butter, so you wont be transparent, but just be treated as any other auditors in the firm.[周星驰 (6-30 18:26, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]3楼

For people who want to have a career in Information Security Consulting,it may not be a good choice to start fromn big4. I have been working with quite a number of big4 consultants and the general feeling is that those good ones all have some operational backgrounds such as security administrator, system analyst or developers before they join big4. In big4, those infosec projects involved are mostly security review and you don't usually touch clients' system, normally you just check system configurations with a set of so call industry best practice and compliance.

Of course there are exceptions, such as those dedicated VA(vulnerability Assessment), PT(penetration testing) and Forensic teams in big4. It will be good if you can join these sepcial groups in big4 instead of the general IT security audit and audit support teams.

Just my 2c
[Rick (7-1 15:09, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]4楼

(引用 周星驰:my,turnover is high, six month bonus is impossible. annual increment is high, at least for auditors, after three year pay will b...)very true.[Rick (7-1 15:10, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]5楼

我觉得我们有时候不能盲目迷信什么big4问问你自己，你喜欢那份工作吗？你觉得你能在那个position上增值吗？薪水对现在的你重要吗？

Final decision should be made by yourself...[SIGG+ (7-1 16:40, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]6楼

谢谢大家的回复，我反复考虑了很久，还是决定接受这个job offer这样的机会对我来说来之不易。。舍不得放弃。
如果摔得头破血流也只好认了。[babydntcry (7-2 22:02, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]7楼

(引用 babydntcry:谢谢大家的回复，我反复考虑了很久，还是决定接受这个job offer这样的机会对我来说来之不易。。舍不得放弃。 如果摔得头破血流也只好认了)也不用太悲观，big4的reputation 在你的resume上还是非常好的，it's maynot be a good place for technical knowledge, but it's a good training ground for project management, client handling and you will have a lot of regional and global exposure. All the best.[Rick (7-3 1:15, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]8楼

(引用 babydntcry:谢谢大家的回复，我反复考虑了很久，还是决定接受这个job offer这样的机会对我来说来之不易。。舍不得放弃。 如果摔得头破血流也只好认了)至少有很多美女可以一起去clubbing.hahaha[SuperStylin (7-5 1:25, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]9楼

(引用 SuperStylin:至少有很多美女可以一起去clubbing.hahaha)one of the main reasons why I join..[babydntcry (7-5 14:10, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]10楼

有13month salary吗？bonus确信是多少？2000/m的确低了一点[龙蝇 (7-6 14:43, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]11楼

(引用 babydntcry:one of the main reasons why I join..)hahahaha:D套个老婆再换工作也不迟=P[SuperStylin (7-7 22:18, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]12楼

(引用 Rick:For people who want to have a career in Information Security Consulting,it may not be a good choice to start fromn big4. I have ...)well said. mark.[newday (7-8 0:51, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]13楼