国大的毕业是要是CAP4.5以上，但HONOR PROJECT没拿A-以上会怎么样？还是1ST CLASS吗？A-容易拿吗？[kaduqhwknd (10-7 14:40, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]1楼

当然不会是1ST HONOR.....学校的degree requirement 里面写的很清楚！
我想：谁也不会例外吧1[StefinieSun (10-7 17:28, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]2楼

(引用 StefinieSun:当然不会是1ST HONOR.....学校的degree requirement 里面写的很清楚！ 我想：谁也不会例外吧1)这个规定其实很瞎, 很多老师也很反对...CAP是累积起来的, 多少还客观点. HYP的成绩基本就是看导师和两个examiner喜欢不喜欢, 好说不好说. 碰到运气差的不讲理的, 死都不知道怎么死...

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(引用 江南渔夫:这个规定其实很瞎, 很多老师也很反对...CAP是累积起来的, 多少还客观点. HYP的成绩基本就是看导师和两个examiner喜欢不喜欢, 好说不好说....)跟导师有关吗？我怎么记得网站上说是由examiner决定的呢？那倒是的决定占百分之几呢？[noah (10-8 22:44, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]4楼

(引用 江南渔夫:这个规定其实很瞎, 很多老师也很反对...CAP是累积起来的, 多少还客观点. HYP的成绩基本就是看导师和两个examiner喜欢不喜欢, 好说不好说....)试问有多少东西不是主观的呢？当年进入NUS，还不是学校的招生人员主观决定的。至于欧美一些名校，教授的权力更大。教授只要不是疯子大都会凭良心说话，东西做得好了，谁会胡搅蛮缠呢？

不过话说回来，如果碰上什么都不懂的人来evaluate，那真的是够呛了。如果是那样，只能认倒霉了，因为你只有一个选择：把你的论文做好然后发表一篇rank 1的文章来确保你的A-以上(不过几率不大)。[吞并日本 (10-8 23:46, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]5楼

(引用 江南渔夫:这个规定其实很瞎, 很多老师也很反对...CAP是累积起来的, 多少还客观点. HYP的成绩基本就是看导师和两个examiner喜欢不喜欢, 好说不好说....)This is just one point, but another point is that FYP/HYP is a projectWhich examines you the ability to solve real problem rather than recite textbooks and PYP

My supervisor once gave an example of a student who's CAP is 3.99 (4 max) and failed to complete his FYP in 4 years. He changed a few supervisors and FOE gave him a special extension of 1 year of study (normal students can only extend his study for the maximum of 2 years) and he still failed it. My supervisor said this student is good at finding "shortcuts" and reciting past year paper, but not at all good at understand complex issues, nor have the perseverance or patience to complete some relatvie simple but tidous task.

Frankly speaking it is very common that the students with the highest CAP are not the best students in the practical world. Loot at the the NUS course structure: Will Einstein get A for sth like Law and Human Resource Management?[香陵居士 (10-9 12:30, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]6楼

(引用 noah:跟导师有关吗？我怎么记得网站上说是由examiner决定的呢？那倒是的决定占百分之几呢？)Supervisor dominatesHe can decide you pass or fail. Evaluator can only "fine tune" your score.[香陵居士 (10-9 12:37, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]7楼

(引用 香陵居士:Supervisor dominatesHe can decide you pass or fail. Evaluator can only "fine tune" your score.)但是网站上明明写的由evaluator决定阿，还有详细的分数分配。http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/students/guidess1_2006_7.htm
怎么能说是导师说得算呢？[noah (10-10 21:21, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]8楼

(引用 noah:但是网站上明明写的由evaluator决定阿，还有详细的分数分配。http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/students/guidess1_2006_7.htm 怎么能说是导师�...)导师给你A难道evaluator会fail你??

而且导师对你做的东西理解更多点~~evaluator能花多少时间在你的project上?[我丑不是罪 (10-11 15:04, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]9楼

(引用 江南渔夫:这个规定其实很瞎, 很多老师也很反对...CAP是累积起来的, 多少还客观点. HYP的成绩基本就是看导师和两个examiner喜欢不喜欢, 好说不好说....)而且如果课题不好，做得再努力也白搭。[hash (10-13 0:29, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]10楼

(引用 hash:而且如果课题不好，做得再努力也白搭。)Isn't the topic been chosen by the student him/herself?[香陵居士 (10-13 17:29, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]11楼

(引用 我丑不是罪:导师给你A难道evaluator会fail你?? 而且导师对你做的东西理解更多点~~evaluator能花多少时间在你的project上?)True...Supervisor is the person who knows your project and performance best other than yourself. Evaluators usually will show some respect to them and grade accordingly. Moreover, if you knows that there is a big difference between the grading of your supervisor and evaluator, you can appeal, and this will cause some severe problem if the evaulator can not provide enough justification for his/her low grade. Thus usually evaulator(s) won't rish themselves to challenge supervisors decision unless they can find major flaws (e.g. major theoretical flaw, fake data or copying) in your report/presentation.[香陵居士 (10-13 17:39, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]12楼

(引用 香陵居士:Isn't the topic been chosen by the student him/herself?)1. many students don't get what they have chosen.I rarely see any FYP student get their first choice. Instead, many didn't get any among their 7 bets.

2. Students are not able judge from the 200 word project synopsis whether that project may lead to meaningful results within their FYP time. Attractive synopsis doesn't mean good project. Many graduate students are tricked into bull-shit projects, not to mention FYPs.

When 3rd year students ask me on FYP projects, I always tell them to contact a GOOD professor and convince that professor to propose a project for him (self-propose).
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(引用 hash:1. many students don't get what they have chosen.I rarely see any FYP student get their first choice. Instead, many didn't get a...)Your para is a good pointChosing a good project and shape it to fit oneself or shape onself to fit it is a part of FYP itself. If it is a fixed-topic, fixed-supervisor project it will be a course project, not FYP.

Anyway final year students should be able to be dominate on how his/her project goes and what's he/she will achieve rather than let the supervisor tell him. Real world after he/she graduate will be full of "projects" with few "courses" no matter he/she takes academic or industrial career path. Those who can not cope with projects well have higher chances to suffer in the real life.

Thus why I agree that FYP is at least as important as CAP.[香陵居士 (10-19 13:54, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]14楼

(引用 香陵居士:Your para is a good pointChosing a good project and shape it to fit oneself or shape onself to fit it is a part of FYP itself. ...)typo, I mean "your last para is a good point"[香陵居士 (10-19 20:29, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]15楼

(引用 香陵居士:True...Supervisor is the person who knows your project and performance best other than yourself. Evaluators usually will show s...)但是怎么能知道自己的导师给我多少分呢？[noah (10-22 18:46, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]16楼

(引用 noah:但是怎么能知道自己的导师给我多少分呢？)问啊，导师一般不会直接告诉你，但是会告诉你你大体的看法。从用词和语气当中可以判断个大概吧。[香陵居士 (10-23 1:12, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]17楼