To 悟入棋途版主 & 网友, "王英再真可爱" and "没头发洪泉发" 网友 -- No. 2
I went out in the morning and just came back home.
A friend told that I do not need to give 3-day allowance, another one give me the support to follow up on the case.
As for me, I hope everyone could have an happy new year but depending on "王英再真可爱" and "没头发洪泉发" 网友.
To 悟入棋途版主,
although you have removed those relevant postings from 悟入棋途, police may still approach you for details after 29 Dec 2007. You may wish to alert huasing administrator to keep all logs for investigations if required. I believe that this is part of the duties of the administrator.
To "王英再真可爱" and "没头发洪泉发" 网友
The 3-day allowance as indicated in my first posting below on this issue still stand, you have to provide all relevant information as indicated to me, say through SIXGA office or Bishan C.C. office by 29 Dec 2007.
I will make a police report after 29 Dec 2007.
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my first posting on this issue as shown below :
To 悟入棋途版主 & 网友, "王英再真可爱" and "没头发洪泉发" 网友 :
发贴时间：2007-12-27 05:53
Recently a few postings try to destroy the efforts put in by many of us in the last few months to help to build a better 悟入棋途, from generating misleading information to personal attacks.
I am considering to report these matters (as attached) to police for investigations unless these two 网友, namely "王英再真可爱" and "没头发洪泉发" give their apologies to 悟入棋途版主 & 网友, Nee Soon South C.C. (I have told them about misleading information previously) and me (regarding personal attacks) with their real identifications within three days, by 29 Dec 2007, Saturday.
There are rules to follow when you are doing postings on Internet, "王英再真可爱" and "没头发洪泉发" may not think carefully before the attached few postings. I hope that they better think carefully now and have a coming Happy New Year before it is too late.
Lastly, may I wish all (悟入棋途版主 & 网友) a Happy New Year and have a better 悟入棋途 in 2008.
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latest count is 27 teams － 王英再真可爱 0 bytes 2007-12-14 02:58 (35 reads)
i hope they leave for their own good － 没头发洪泉发 0 bytes 2007-12-26 19:37 (16 reads)
You sound very upright but just another two-faced hypocrite － 没头发洪泉发 0 bytes 2007-12-27 01:22 (13 reads)
[棋人生 (12-27 14:34, Long long ago)]
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已经转去给admin看了但是不确定他什么时候能看到，不确定来不来得及
早知道不删贴了，我算不算破坏证据啊，妨碍司法公正？
看这里
[一刀n断 (12-27 15:53, Long long ago)]
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(引用 一刀n断:已经转去给admin看了但是不确定他什么时候能看到，不确定来不来得及 早知道不删贴了，我算不算破坏证据啊，妨碍司法公正？ 看这里 ...)Sorry, I have to take this issue seriously ....especially to those who are doing somethings not right but not dare to identify themselves ....[棋人生 (12-27 16:22, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]3楼
(引用 一刀n断:已经转去给admin看了但是不确定他什么时候能看到，不确定来不来得及 早知道不删贴了，我算不算破坏证据啊，妨碍司法公正？ 看这里 ...)If it is a police case, let police to decide, so it is better for you to .....alert the administrator fast enough to keep all records ....[棋人生 (12-27 16:25, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]4楼
(引用 棋人生:If it is a police case, let police to decide, so it is better for you to .....alert the administrator fast enough to keep all re...)admin我也不认识，我只能把意见发到“意见论坛”板块[一刀n断 (12-27 16:30, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]5楼
(引用 一刀n断:已经转去给admin看了但是不确定他什么时候能看到，不确定来不来得及
早知道不删贴了，我算不算破坏证据啊，妨碍司法公正？
看这里
...)Furthermore, take how long to apologise and the sincerity of .....
"王英再真可爱" and "没头发洪泉发" 网友 count too. [棋人生 (12-27 16:31, Long long ago)]
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(引用 一刀n断:admin我也不认识，我只能把意见发到“意见论坛”板块)do not worry, definitely can trace ....[棋人生 (12-27 16:34, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]7楼
(引用 棋人生:Furthermore, take how long to apologise and the sincerity of ..... "王英再真可爱" and "没头发洪泉发" 网友 count too. )我早上把“没头发”ban了，他怎么道歉？你确定他知道象总或者碧山电话吗？[一刀n断 (12-27 16:38, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]8楼
(引用 棋人生:If it is a police case, let police to decide, so it is better for you to .....alert the administrator fast enough to keep all re...)应该是和棋人生比较熟的人才开这玩笑,相信他知道你生气了会找你道歉,宽洪大量,估计没人再开这玩笑了[棋仙 (12-27 16:44, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]9楼
给“王英再真可爱"和”没头发洪泉发“网友的一点儿建议一直以来，悟入棋途版都很"和谐"，各位棋友和睦相处，探讨棋艺，交流信息，棋乐融融。没想到07年岁末会发生这样一些不愉快，作为一名版主，我感到非常地遗憾。
为了友好的化解这次不愉快，我诚恳地给“王英再真可爱"和”没头发洪泉发“这两位棋友一些建议，希望你们能够考虑。
1.在本版面发一个公开的声明，向此次不愉快中受到伤害的棋友道歉（可以重新申请其它的华新ID，真实身份无须透露给我们）；
2.请私下联系此次不愉快中受到伤害的棋友并向他们道歉；
[张辽 (12-27 16:54, Long long ago)]
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(引用 一刀n断:我早上把“没头发”ban了，他怎么道歉？你确定他知道象总或者碧山电话吗？)this is part of the sincerity, do not know the phone or address is not .....an valid reason, let "王英再真可爱" and "没头发洪泉发" 网友 to think how to do it.
版主,
please relax and sorry to let you worry. [棋人生 (12-27 17:13, Long long ago)]
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(引用 张辽:给“王英再真可爱"和”没头发洪泉发“网友的一点儿建议一直以来，悟入棋途版都很"和谐"，各位棋友和睦相处，探讨棋艺，交流信息，棋乐融�...)To everyone...张辽版主，看过你说的话，的确感到做得过分并深感内疚。你说的对，“悟入棋途版都很"和谐"，各位棋友和睦相处，探讨棋艺，交流信息，棋乐融融”，棋人生本身也有巨大贡献。许多资料，如排名，对局等都是靠他才能看得到的。因此，我在此向棋人生与因此事而感到不愉快的人道歉，并保证此类事件再也不会发生。我也想说，以前只是想开玩笑，并无蓄意提供假资料或破坏他人名誉之意，没想到过了火。希望棋人生能如棋仙所说，宽洪大量，接受本人的道歉，不再追究此事，并一同协助悟入棋途的发展。[王英再真可爱 (12-27 17:48, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]12楼
(引用 王英再真可爱:To everyone...张辽版主，看过你说的话，的确感到做得过分并深感内疚。你说的对，“悟入棋途版都很"和谐"，各位棋友和睦相处，探讨棋艺，...)ok to close the matter......may be still better for you to use another name as the first time I saw the name "王英再真可爱", I feel ......., how about the feeling of 王英再 ? [棋人生 (12-27 18:02, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]13楼
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latest count is 27 teams － 王英再真可爱 0 bytes 2007-12-14 02:58 (35 reads)
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he may be trying to help but receive wrong info, so cant blame him for that
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i hope they leave for their own good － 没头发洪泉发 0 bytes 2007-12-26 19:37 (16 reads)
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thats his personal view, again cant blame him for that right?
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You sound very upright but just another two-faced hypocrite － 没头发洪泉发 0 bytes 2007-12-27 01:22 (13 reads)
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no mention of any names, you sure he's referring to you?
I think this is just a small matter, as long as he doesnt do it again, should just let it go. I think everyone in this forum feels this way too. Hope 棋人生 can be more forgiving this time round.[黎明到来 (12-27 18:02, Long long ago)]
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(引用 棋人生:this is part of the sincerity, do not know the phone or address is not .....an valid reason, let "王英再真可爱" and "没头发洪泉...)从大局上讲 我作为版主不希望看到 人身攻击贴 和 类似纷争贴好比，没有人喜欢别人在自己家门口打架一样，比喻不太准确，但是道理差不多。
华新网给我们棋友开辟了这样一个专版，管理员和技术部门还一直大力支持我们，不惜花费很多时间帮我们完善java棋图的程序等，所以从我的角度也不希望给上面再添什么麻烦。
网络本来就是虚拟的，只是因为大家都有面对面的研棋，比赛和交流，所以网友之间的关系才显得更进一步。华新另外有很多板块，版面上面有链接，大家都看得到。我因为四处乱逛也曾偶尔目睹到别的板块里的纷争甚至谩骂贴，版主通常都是六亲不认，全版面的文字全部删掉，以求和谐，宁静和干净的视听环境。我个人热爱这个大家一起亲手创建起来的板块，也愿意为网友们服务，维持秩序也是我的职责之一。但是如果事情超过我的能力范围，我也爱莫能助。
我唯一的担忧就是怕影响到本版的人气，希望大家一如既往的光顾和支持。
所以，不希望看到整个版面的纷争讨伐，以及事态的激化升级。
谢谢！
[一刀n断 (12-27 18:05, Long long ago)]
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(引用 棋人生:ok to close the matter......may be still better for you to use another name as the first time I saw the name "王英再真可爱", I f...)Will not use this nick anymoreAnyway i am 没头发洪泉发 too. Was just joking around. Glad you are able to let the matter close.[王英再真可爱 (12-27 18:05, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]16楼
(引用 黎明到来:My personal views---------------------------------------------------------------------------- latest count is 27 teams － 王英再...)please note the flow of the postings, not acceptable to me ....[棋人生 (12-27 18:06, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]17楼
(引用 王英再真可爱:Will not use this nick anymoreAnyway i am 没头发洪泉发 too. Was just joking around. Glad you are able to let the matter close.)ok[棋人生 (12-27 18:06, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]18楼
(引用 棋人生:please note the flow of the postings, not acceptable to me ....)close in the other posting[棋人生 (12-27 18:08, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]19楼
我的一些看法昨晚刚到新加坡,先祝大家在2008年棋艺大进,心想事成.
对于这个事件,我的看法是
1."王英再真可爱"和"没头发洪泉发"这两位网友(也可能是同一位)虽是网上主从而的ID,但在一定程度上侵犯了真实棋友的姓名权.王英再先生和洪泉发先生在棋界都是有级棋士,无论在棋艺上和棋会组织上都有非常高的知名度,他们有权要求这两位网友停止使用这两个ID,并对其不当的言论要求作出道歉和赔偿.
2.王英再先生和洪泉发先生有权要求悟入棋途版主使用版主功能,"禁止"这两个ID继续发贴,也有权要求"删除"这两个ID以前已经发过的帖子.
3.众所周知,王英再先生和洪泉发先生在新加坡象棋界作出了巨大的贡献,洪泉发先生更是在网络上(悟入棋途论坛)投入了巨大热情和心血来宣传,记录,推广,促进象棋在新加坡的发展.我们广大棋友和网友在享受其辛苦工作为我们带来方便的同时不应注册"搞笑"ID或发表"搞笑"言论以此来"搞笑".
4.这两个ID的主人也有可能在实际生活中与王英再先生和洪泉发先生是有交情的朋友,现在应该跟贴道个歉,认个错(至于ID被封的情况,可以另注册一个好的ID).有任何疑问可以致电90117122或email到zcj80@hotmail.com或在华新论坛中发短信给任何版主或"棋人生"来商量解决途径.
5.警方在调查时也可以随时致电90117122或email到zcj80@hotmail.com或向其他版主了解情况.
6.作为版主之一,我本人认为我们版主负有一定责任,应加强对论坛帖子的管理和监督,做到既疏又堵切实可行把论坛建设成为广大棋友学习交流提高的舞台,更好的为新加坡象棋和围棋服务.[卷心菜 (12-27 18:35, Long long ago)]
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