Tentative List of 56 Players for 2008 Bishan Cup ...15 of the players joined 2006 Bishan Cup for Central Singapore.

Team records for 2008 Bishan Cup –

Will need to verify the constituency boundaries of the first 16 records in the 4 teams

1 碧山 Bishan East Division 莫家维 (from 2006 Bishan Cup)
2 Bishan East Division 莫家铭 (from 2006 Bishan Cup)
3 碧山 Bishan East Division 张开鈞
4 碧山 Bishan East Division 张开勋
5 甘榜格南 Kampong Glam Division 符学栋 (from 2006 Bishan Cup)
6 甘榜格南 Kampong Glam Division 杨昭吉
7 甘榜格南 Kampong Glam Division 陈仲贤
8 甘榜格南 Kampong Glam Division 严修美
9 文礼 ?? Division 洪培荣
10 文礼 ?? Division 廖铭濠
11 文礼 ?? Division 陈政利
12 文礼 ?? Division 邱政宇
13 女皇镇 ?? Division 张顺喜 (from 2006 Bishan Cup)
14 文礼 ?? Division 张友彬
15 女皇镇?? Division 赖颖正
16 女皇镇?? Division 郑智安

individual records for 2008 Bishan Cup –

17 赵金山
18 北斗 林超贤
19 龚敬文
20 文礼 刘忆豪
21 刘忆豪 schoolmate 1
22 刘忆豪schoolmate 2
23 刘忆豪schoolmate 3
24 刘忆豪schoolmate 4
25 刘忆豪schoolmate 5
26 文礼 赖俊杰
27 王子艺
28 陈贤凯
29 群立小学 Gabriel Koh Kia Kheng Greenridge Primary School
30 群立小学 Sebastian Sim Shi Peng (from 2006 Bishan Cup) Greenridge Primary School
31 群立小学 邱子扬 (from 2006 Bishan Cup) Greenridge Primary School
32 白沙东 庄才钧
33 波那维斯达 杨丰义
34 碧山 陈一龙
35 义顺南 林俊章 (from 2006 Bishan Cup)
36 郭劲豪 (from 2006 Bishan Cup)
37 义顺南 蔡俊杰 (from 2006 Bishan Cup)
38 义顺南 朱祖亮 (from 2006 Bishan Cup)
39 碧山 洪福阳 (from 2006 Bishan Cup)
40 碧山 徐乃隆 (from 2006 Bishan Cup)
41 碧山 吴荣华 (from 2006 Bishan Cup)
42 碧山 吴钦华 (from 2006 Bishan Cup)
43 白沙东 碧山 陈靖龙
44 白沙东 碧山 陈靖麟
45 碧山 陈茗芳 -- lady player
46 Lau Siao Wei -- lady player
47 Loh Chue Wah
48 Teo Siak Yang
49 Lim Gay Huang
50 Chang Hoong Yeow (from 2006 Bishan Cup)
51 Teo Gee Yong
52 Lim Wei Yang
53 Lim Jun Ren
54 Ling Cun Kai
55 Lim Hsien Yong
56 Lee Tse Foong
[棋人生 (2-1 1:04, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]1楼

one primary school wished to register 12 players and NTU 4 to 5 players ...
we have rejected both requests due to the reasons as mnetioned separately, anyway, each of the Top 8 ranking primary schools was allowed to register up to 3 individual players only ....


reasons for us to keep to the original closing date : --


http://bbs.huasing.org/wap/xbbs.php?B=123_10990889[棋人生 (2-1 22:12, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]2楼

(引用 棋人生:one primary school wished to register 12 players and NTU 4 to 5 players ... we have rejected both requests due to the reasons as...)out of 20 primary schools which ranked in the Top 8 of 2003 to ....
...2007 Bishan Cup and Char Yong Cup team event, only one school registered by the closing date, i.e. Greenridge Primary School, 1st in 2007 Char Yong Cup and 2007 第一届西区小学象棋团体赛. We have stopped to organise Bishan Cup Primary School team event after 4 active years (2003 to 2006). [棋人生 (2-2 6:38, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]3楼

out of about 100 C.C.s (84 constituencies), only 4 teams formed ....for the coming event ....

whoever plan to organise such event in future, may wish to review the conditions for team composition (nationality, number and grade matters) and address issues. [棋人生 (2-2 6:52, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]4楼

(引用 棋人生:out of about 100 C.C.s (84 constituencies), only 4 teams formed ....for the coming event .... whoever plan to organise such eve...)If we have 8 teams in 2010, 16 teams in 2012 .....
then we can start 选区团体赛 officially, say from 2012 ......


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previous posting :


I also mentioned that in the long run, SIXGA should target at the about 100 C.C. all over Singapore for the Singapore Xiangqi Development, e.g. to help 2 C.C.s to form xiangqi team each year so that in 5 years time, we will have 10 more C.C.s having xiangqi teams.

The Bishan Cup 选区团体赛 is to help to inject this thinking into the players so that more and more will help their own C.C.s (at where they stay) to form xiangqi teams or clubs in future. [棋人生 (2-3 0:39, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]5楼

(引用 棋人生:out of about 100 C.C.s (84 constituencies), only 4 teams formed ....for the coming event .... whoever plan to organise such eve...)Singapore xiangqi Clubs in the past 10 years ........
hope all 网友 can help in the building of this list for historical records : --


I will use the following two lists to form the initial list (may remove some with valid reasons, e.g. 中正, 武吉班让 and 阿裕尼 formed teams just for 第一届狮城杯 etc, may exclude 南大 and 国大 too as there are too many teams under Education) and to take in the additions with the new inputs subject to verifications.

(A) getting from the list prepared by 棋一生 with amendment :


（1）白沙东（2）碧山（3）北斗（4）义顺南（5）甘榜格南（6）哥南亚逸（7）加基武吉（8）波那维斯达（9）淡滨尼东（10）女皇镇（11）文礼（12）飞鹰


(B) getting from the list prepared recently --

from this record, so many teams not in PA HQ's Mind Sport due to .....

Dec holidays, Rename of team, no more around, any other reason etc :

武吉甘柏
加基武吉
甘榜格南
长河
实龙崗北
芽笼西
国大
裕华
桂林
南大
阿裕尼
淡滨尼东
武吉班让
中正 [棋人生 (2-3 7:50, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]6楼

文传冠 in the waiting list ........[棋人生 (2-3 9:18, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]7楼

(引用 棋人生:out of about 100 C.C.s (84 constituencies), only 4 teams formed ....for the coming event .... whoever plan to organise such eve...)most of the C.C.s not having Xiangqi as one of the interest groups now .....[棋人生 (2-3 9:24, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]8楼

(引用 棋人生:out of about 100 C.C.s (84 constituencies), only 4 teams formed ....for the coming event .... whoever plan to organise such eve...)some of the active teams having none or few non-grade players ......

is it one of the reasons for so few or no players from the following teams ?

北斗, 哥南亚逸, 加基武吉, 波那维斯达, 淡滨尼东 and 飞鹰



another possible reason could be due to the dates, 1 & 2 Mar 2008 even it is one of the activities under the programme of 2008 华族文化节 ?


Although all teams have been informed on 18 & 20 Nov 2007 on this event. [棋人生 (2-3 9:36, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]9楼

(引用 棋人生:some of the active teams having none or few non-grade players ...... is it one of the reasons for so few or no players from the...)一刀n断 (波那维斯达) and 卷心菜 (飞鹰).[棋人生 (2-3 9:42, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]10楼

(引用 棋人生:If we have 8 teams in 2010, 16 teams in 2012 ..... then we can start 选区团体赛 officially, say from 2012 ...... -------------...)before we try to have new teams, may be we should look into problems of ...
existing teams and tackle them first .....[棋人生 (2-3 9:51, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]11楼

(引用 棋人生:before we try to have new teams, may be we should look into problems of ... existing teams and tackle them first .....)12 xiangqi teams to be divided into 4 groups to look for problems if any ......
for the 12 teams from 棋一生's records :



Group 1 -- send at least a team of 4 players under 2008 碧山杯全国选区象棋团体赛

文礼, 甘榜格南, 女皇镇 and 碧山


Group 2 -- send 2 or 3 players under 2008 碧山杯全国象棋个人赛

义顺南 and 白沙东


Group 3 -- send one player under 2008 碧山杯全国象棋个人赛

北斗, 波那维斯达 and 飞鹰


Group 4 -- did not send any player under 2008 碧山杯全国象棋个人赛

哥南亚逸, 加基武吉 and 淡滨尼东[棋人生 (2-3 10:05, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]12楼

(引用 棋人生:out of about 100 C.C.s (84 constituencies), only 4 teams formed ....for the coming event .... whoever plan to organise such eve...)如果允许持student pass的同学参赛允许来自同一所学校的同学自由组队（不必须住址在同一地区），国大目前或许可以派出1-2队参赛。[一刀n断 (2-3 11:02, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]13楼

(引用 一刀n断:如果允许持student pass的同学参赛允许来自同一所学校的同学自由组队（不必须住址在同一地区），国大目前或许可以派出1-2队参赛。)For 选区赛, checking of address is a MUST, unless ...we just plan team event but not a 选区赛, then it is just another team event without any speciality.

Anyway, it is still better for the organiser(s) in 2010 to decide, we will include all relevant points in our review report for considerations.[棋人生 (2-3 11:44, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]14楼

(引用 棋人生:For 选区赛, checking of address is a MUST, unless ...we just plan team event but not a 选区赛, then it is just another team even...)Maybe in the future.As a start, Bishan has been doing well on this tournament. I guess the CC also needs some time to monitor the response before they can decide to include more players. Hope next year all residents can participate.

[几度 (2-3 17:58, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]15楼

(引用 几度:Maybe in the future.As a start, Bishan has been doing well on this tournament. I guess the CC also needs some time to monitor th...)In the long run, we hope to have 20 teams of 6 players per team ........
(1) with 2 or 3 graded players per team, and

(2) non Singapore NRIC holders will be counted as graded players, and

(3) non graded players will be counted as graded players if coming from a different constituencies

This is in our original proposal .......[棋人生 (2-3 18:32, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]16楼

(引用 棋人生:Singapore xiangqi Clubs in the past 10 years ........ hope all 网友 can help in the building of this list for historical records...)should add in 团体联赛 1999 to 2002 for 10-year records, 15-year records .....
should include 团体联赛 1995 to 1998.[棋人生 (2-3 23:09, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]17楼

(引用 棋人生:In the long run, we hope to have 20 teams of 6 players per team ........ (1) with 2 or 3 graded players per team, and (2) non S...)We call it 第三届碧山杯全国象棋个人赛曁第一届碧山杯全国选区象棋团体赛 ...
in actual fact, it is 第一届碧山杯全国象棋个人赛.


第一届碧山杯象棋个人赛 is for 碧山东选区 only (small area)

and

第二届碧山杯象棋个人赛 is for 新加坡中区 only (bigger area)


and now 第三届碧山杯象棋个人赛 is for 全国, so we call it

第三届碧山杯全国象棋个人赛.


As for 选区象棋团体赛, may be we also need 三届 to reach not less than 10 teams and another 二,三届 to reach 20 teams.

If we only organise it to 配合华族文化节, then it will take the next 10 years until 2018 ??!! .... any taker ? Anyone wish to join Bishan Xiangqi Club as EXCO members to work on this project with speciality.

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In the long run, we hope to have 20 teams of 6 players per team ........

(1) with 2 or 3 graded players per team, and

(2) non Singapore NRIC holders will be counted as graded players, and

(3) non graded players will be counted as graded players if coming from a different constituencies

This is in our original proposal .......

[棋人生 (2-3 23:33, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]18楼

(引用 棋人生:We call it 第三届碧山杯全国象棋个人赛曁第一届碧山杯全国选区象棋团体赛 ... in actual fact, it is 第一届碧山杯全国象棋个人赛. 第...)Targets -- 2010 (8 teams), 2012(12 teams), 2014(16 teams), 2016(20 teams) ...[棋人生 (2-3 23:37, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]19楼

(引用 棋人生:Targets -- 2010 (8 teams), 2012(12 teams), 2014(16 teams), 2016(20 teams) ...)we are very willing to share our experiences with those xiangqi clubs ...
who want to work on this type of 全国选区象棋团体赛. :)[棋人生 (2-3 23:44, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]20楼