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Airb&b要玩脱了,政府正式宣布短租违法了
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政府应该有后续措施 给民众一些空间的SINGAPORE — In a nod to home-sharing platforms such as Airbnb, the authorities are considering a new building use category for private residences hoping to engage in short-term rentals, and a reduction in the current minimum rental timeframe of six months for short-term rentals.
Speaking in Parliament as changes were passed to the Planning Act yesterday, National Development Minister Lawrence Wong said that the authorities see a role for home-sharing platforms to continue operating in Singapore.
“So long as they’re properly regulated, so long as there is a level playing field between them and similar entities that provide short-term rentals like hotels and service apartments, I believe that the sharing economy is here to stay and we’ll allow a space in our city for such platforms to exist,” said Mr Wong.
The Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) would provide more details “soon”, he added, without specifying a timeline.
Under existing guidelines, private residential properties are intended for long-term or permanent residence of a minimum six-month period, and should not be used for other purposes without approval from the authorities.
Renting out flats under popular platforms such as Airbnb — often used by travellers — have drawn objections from some homeowners, citing public nuisance and safety concerns.
The URA, which has been reviewing the rules on short-term rentals, received 259 complaints about short-term stays in the first half of last year alone.
In creating a new use class for private residences, Mr Wong said that new residential sites could be given prior approval to be used flexibly as short-term rental properties, and sold as such.
Existing residences will require approval for the change of use, and this would be subject to guidelines.
Mr Wong also said premises that are rented out on a daily basis ought to be regulated more like hotels.
“They should be subject to relevant licensing and conditions to ensure proper standards,” he said.
Although the changes to the Planning Act did not concern home-sharing platforms, the issue was raised by several Members of Parliament during the debate.
Dr Lee Bee Wah (Nee Soon GRC) shared her residents’ worries over tourists disturbing their rest by towing their luggage in and out of flats on their floor, while Mr Saktiandi Supaat (Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC) called on the authorities to take a clear stand on short-term home rentals.
“It is widely known that renting out homes for short-term stays is forbidden. But this is not stopping Singaporean Airbnb listings from popping up ever so frequently. It is important that the Ministry takes a clear stand on it, or it will be assumed that the regulation is a paper tiger,” said Mr Saktiandi.
Acknowledging this, Mr Wong, noting a 60 per cent rise in complaints from home-owners about breaches of this guideline over the past year, said that pending future tweaks, managing bodies of condominiums — the Management Corporation Strata Title — could do their part by passing by-laws to manage the use of common property. For instance, they could screen visitors or register their details.
Meanwhile, changes passed yesterday made it illegal for residential property to be used as short-term accommodation and dormitory accommodation without permission. Any property with more than six unrelated tenants will be outlawed — down from the current cap of eight persons, unless permission has been given.
There will also be higher penalties for offenders offering any land or building for dormitory accommodation without permission and repeat offenders carrying out unauthorised development. Such culprits could now face jail time, up from a fine of up to S$200,000. The maximum penalty for the demolition of a conserved building has been bumped up to a S$500,000 fine, a jail term, or both.
The Bill also allows URA to place conditions — such as the provision of public spaces and pedestrian connections — on developers seeking planning permission. Non-compliance would amount to an offence.
[真实的马甲 (2-7 12:29, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]21楼

有没有大神澄清一下这个1. 这个新闻,没关系的租户最多6个?
The new law will also limit the number of unrelated tenants in private apartments to six, down from the currently allowed eight.
2. URA网站,包括屋主最多八个。现在改成了六个?
https://www.ura.gov.sg/uol/buy-property/about/leasing/residential.aspx
each occupant should have at least 10 sqm of space. The maximum number of occupants in a residential unit is eight, no matter how big the unit is
includes the owner if he is living within the premises
如果是自己的公寓,按照新的条例,包括屋主家庭和租户不超过6个还是租户不超过6个?






[瓜瓜 (2-7 13:58, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]22楼

(引用 rabbitwf:原文中是这么说的Parliament passed a new law on Monday which makes it illegal for such home owners to rent out entire apartments ...)后面and rooms是说房间出租吧  [本文发送自华新iOS APP] [凡人 (2-7 15:50, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]23楼

(引用 功夫熊猫:hdb呢? 华新广告版租房的都玩脱了吗)HDB也不可以啊,更严格还要HDB批准  [本文发送自华新iOS APP] [凡人 (2-7 15:51, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]24楼

(引用 真实的马甲:政府应该有后续措施 给民众一些空间的SINGAPORE — In a nod to home-sharing platforms such as Airbnb, the authorities are consideri ...)对,就看新政策要怎么规定,某些投资房短租如何合法化那种自住盘估计很难  [本文发送自华新iOS APP] [凡人 (2-7 15:52, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]25楼

(引用 瓜瓜:有没有大神澄清一下这个1. 这个新闻,没关系的租户最多6个? The new law will also limit the number of unrelated tenants in private ...)我的理解是总人数不超过6个如果屋主一家已经6个或者更多了,估计很难出租房间了。如果整套出租,租客是合租的单身人士彼此无亲属关系,像同事啊同学什么的,最多6个。如果是家庭,可以超过6个,比如一家四口+俩老人+女佣这种  [本文发送自华新iOS APP] [凡人 (2-7 15:54, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]26楼

(引用 凡人:对,就看新政策要怎么规定,某些投资房短租如何合法化那种自住盘估计很难)自住盘里也有很多投资房啊很多买来投资的房子,像一房这种根本不可能给家庭自住。现在的行情出租又很难,本来airbnb到是可以救救急的,现在政府这么一弄,叫这些投资客怎么办?  [本文发送自华新手机Wap版] [flyawaysdx (2-7 16:06, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]27楼

人家买私宅99年也好FREE HOLD也好政府这样管,这钱不是白花了。

LANDED也要管吗? 私人的住宅那不是跟HDB一样没有自由了?
[熊维妮 (2-7 16:12, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]28楼

这个办法好,早就应该这么做了市区有些盘,看起来高档盘,被游客短期出租搞得乌烟瘴气的,会影响房价的。[lun_tan (2-7 16:23, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]29楼

挺可惜的。我觉得AIRBNB很适合坡国这种酒店很贵的城市我去欧洲也都是住Airbnb,能省不少钱,周边吃饭交通也比很多酒店更方便,基本都很满意的。
[高山流水 (2-7 16:31, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]30楼

(引用 高山流水:挺可惜的。我觉得AIRBNB很适合坡国这种酒店很贵的城市我去欧洲也都是住Airbnb,能省不少钱,周边吃饭交通也比很多酒店更方便,基本都很满...)我个人对分享经济持保留意见主要是:资源是分享了,责任呢??责任有没有到位?

我至今很老土的一直用grabtaxi,不到万不得已不会用grabcar或者UBER。我依然住酒店不住airb&b. 我就是怕有什么意外,这种分享平台会负责吗?平台不负责,屋主或者车主会负责吗?都没有的话,有第三方保险负责吗?

之前看过一篇文章,一家人在美国租airb&b民房度假,院子里一棵老树倒了把租客爸爸砸死了,后续怎样我不知道,那篇文章没说,反正在扯皮。如果在酒店发生这种事情,毫无疑问酒店责任。

我自己十几年前搭出租车被追尾进了医院,出租车公司律师主动跟我联系,安排后续检查和复健,后来还一次性赔偿了一笔钱,大概是我医药费三倍多,说是包括了去治疗的误工费,因为物理治疗不给MC,我需要请无薪假。如果我是搭uber出车祸,不知道uber会不会赔。
 [本文发送自华新iOS APP] [凡人 (2-7 17:05, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]31楼

(引用 熊维妮:人家买私宅99年也好FREE HOLD也好政府这样管,这钱不是白花了。 LANDED也要管吗? 私人的住宅那不是跟HDB一样没有自由了?)landed当然也是要管的  [本文发送自华新iOS APP] [凡人 (2-7 17:06, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]32楼

(引用 熊维妮:人家买私宅99年也好FREE HOLD也好政府这样管,这钱不是白花了。 LANDED也要管吗? 私人的住宅那不是跟HDB一样没有自由了?)牙笼公寓曾经失火烧死劳工一套小房子非法做了很多隔间分租,被烧死的租客住的隔间没有窗户,因为隔间多公共区域走路都费劲了,失火跑不出来。所以政府还是时不时突击检查群租的现象,就是为了预防这样的悲剧。  [本文发送自华新iOS APP] [凡人 (2-7 17:08, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]33楼

(引用 flyawaysdx:自住盘里也有很多投资房啊很多买来投资的房子,像一房这种根本不可能给家庭自住。现在的行情出租又很难,本来airbnb到是可以救救急的,现...)一般有保安和物业管理的,都不适合做airb&b物业公司也会管的,不让游客随便进出,租客信息也是要及时登记更新。有一些楼盘是没有物业公司进驻,都是超小户型,比如58平米的3房,这种其实挺适合的。就看URA怎么退出新规定了  [本文发送自华新iOS APP] [凡人 (2-7 17:12, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]34楼

(引用 凡人:我个人对分享经济持保留意见主要是:资源是分享了,责任呢??责任有没有到位? 我至今很老土的一直用grabtaxi,不到万不得已不会用grabc...)嗯同意美女说的对于这些发生事故后责任的考量我也想知道会不会有负责。貌似没有这方面的保障。
自己的旅游保险可以吗?

总的来说,平时出去一个人的话,在那些发达国家,airbnb的价格和酒店相比确是低太多了,想省钱很难不心动。
[高山流水 (2-7 17:15, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]35楼

政府为了保护本地酒店也是拼了本地这么多酒店,而且裕廊东还有很多计划中的,短租被个人把钱赚走了,酒店还怎么活啊  [本文发送自华新iOS APP] [飞侠 (2-7 19:44, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]36楼

这日子没法过了  [本文发送自华新iOS APP] [king (2-7 19:58, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]37楼

有没有成功申请过Airbnb全额退款的?我也是今天看到这个新闻。悲催的是之前还给我家人订了一个三月份的apartment,现在在考虑取消预订和申请全额退款。

按照Airbnb规定,申请全额退款的话需要他们和房东共同审核,并且需要提交证明材料。我跟房东交流过,他们好像很淡定,说新闻里面的说法一早就有。我去搜查过,的确,URA上面的guidelines一直都是这么写,现在新闻说的只不过是把这些guidelines写成law,而且我在国会和URA的网站上面也还没查到对应的官方消息。

所以,问题来了,如果申请全额退款的话,拿StraitsTimes这种报纸上面的消息当supporting document是不是没什么效力,政府是不是会在近期之内将这新闻对应的法律条文放到网站上面?
[lmmtheryan (2-7 21:53, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]38楼

啊呀,实在受不了这个鬼地方了极权、容忍歧视、假装一切‘和谐’、nanny state、还有那个笑得多假的总理、狭隘的子民,呕吐中,啊呸!
1-2年之内一定要离开这个鬼地方。反正已经有了第三国身份了。
[又来狮城 (2-7 22:06, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]39楼

(引用 又来狮城:啊呀,实在受不了这个鬼地方了极权、容忍歧视、假装一切‘和谐’、nanny state、还有那个笑得多假的总理、狭隘的子民,呕吐中,啊呸! 1-...)赞,先从离开房版开始吧这里供大家求助讨论发表有意义的东西的[武汉伢 (2-7 22:09, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]40楼


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