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A study of Methods used in Singapore Xiangqi Open .....

SIXGA may wish to conduct a review after this 2009 Singapore Open Group B 2nd Season.


Please refer to previous post below : --

Learning from the methods used in the last 5 years .......

http://v15.huasing.org/bbs.php?B=123_11199095

As indicated previously in Jun 2009, the current 7 + 3 八人淘汰 system has a critical round, i.e. Round 8, to decide all promotion cases and the recent withdrawal of 卷心菜 has generated a number of concerns.

To improve the system further, there are few alternatives : --



(1) 八人双败淘汰 -- 7 + 3 method

for this method, the player with 双败 in the last three rounds not to be promoted, in this case, if someone win with a walkover in Round 8 but having 双败 in Rounds 9 and 10 will not be promoted.

after first round


胜者组 4人 select positions 1, 2, 3 and 5
负者组 4人 select positions 4, 6, 7 and 8


Position and results

1 胜 胜 胜 胜者组
2 胜 胜 负 胜者组
3 胜 负 胜 胜者组
4 负 胜 胜
5 胜 负 负 胜者组
6 负 胜 负
7 负 负 胜
8 负 负 负

and Top 4 are promotion cases.

第三届棋总杯大马象棋精英争霸赛 .......2009年7月24日至26日

争霸赛前三轮双败淘汰赛,至少取得2胜才能踏步四强。

(2) 八人淘汰 -- 7 + 1 Method

If we wish to keep to Round 8 to decide on all promotion cases, then we can consider the method used in 2009 Vietnam Open to decide the ranking positions of 8 players in one round so as to save times for Rounds 9 and 10.


Below is a study of methods used in 2009 Vietnam Xiangqi Open

( 9+2 for Top 4 and 9 + 1 for next 8)

From the ranking list after Round 9 ....... to decide the positions for 5 to 12

the ranking list after Round 9

1 蒋 川
2 张 强
3 阮成保
4 阮黄林

5 赖李兄
6 陈正心
7 柳大华
8 陶高科
9 陈强安
10 阮武军
11 阮陈杜宁
12 蒙世行

Winning in Round 10 can move up maximum of 4 positions, in this case, quite a fair system, i.e. the performance in the past 9 rounds are considered too.


5 赖李兄 (won) -- Position 5
6 陈正心 (won) -- Position 6
7 柳大华 (Position 9)
8 陶高科 (won) -- Position 7
9 陈强安 (Position 10)
10 阮武军 (won) -- Position 8
11 阮陈杜宁 (Position 11)
12 蒙世行 (Position 12)

From this study, 陈强安 lost in Round 10. Right ? Vietnam Website did not show Round 10, 3rd Game etc for him.

May be SIXGA can study this method further for our Singapore Open since we are using 7 + 2 (9 + 2 in this system) for the Top 4, what we really want is also to pick Positions 5 to 8 for the prize giving.

In the knock out system, you need a win to move up, for the Positions 5 to 8 in Vietnam System after 9 rounds, you need a win to stay in the same positions or to move up, this is the reason for 柳大华 to move from Position 7 to Position 9 in Round 10 as he has a lost. this is also the reason for 阮武军 to move from Position 10 to Position 8 in Round 10.

and also 陶高科 from Position 8 to Position 7
陈强安 from Position 9 to Position 10.

For Positions 5 to 12, in all, only Positions 7 to 10 are affected from Round 10.


(3) 9 + 1 method instead of 7 + 3 method

For this method, to use Swiss Pairing for the first 9 rounds for all players, and Round 10 to decide on the final ranking.

either

to decide the final ranking position of Top 8, next 8, next next 8, etc so that all players are still fighting hard in their own range of 8 by using Vietnam 2009 Method (you can only move up maximum of 4 positions in this method for 8 players in one round)

or

Round 10 below as suggested previously :

1 vs 2
3 vs 4
5 vs 6
7 vs 8
9 vs 10
...
..
.

and Top 4 are promotion cases.

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罗秉篆(luo bing zhuan) also won all his 9 games..... piggy888   (143 bytes , 392reads )
Where to find info on such history on Singapore CHIchess? (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 230reads )
http://www.sixga.org/competition_result_english.htm (but nt updated since 2005) piggy888   (0 bytes , 294reads )
Positively, at least we have records some where :-) (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 215reads )
http://v15.huasing.org/bbs.php?B=123_11220956 碧山   (0 bytes , 262reads )
是啊,廖铭濠在B组能力高居第一。 卷心菜   (117 bytes , 245reads )
1 player withdraw? (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 433reads )
So far, 3 to be promoted and 2 to 3 more to be decided on 18 Dec ..... 碧山   (156 bytes , 304reads )
How come the pairing is based on rankings not reshuffled from new numbering? (NM kurubear   (0 bytes , 249reads )
淘汰赛这种赛制有时会同循环赛制相结合,。。。。。。。 碧山   (2191 bytes , 376reads )
Will it be 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7 and so on? 风云剑   (0 bytes , 194reads )
What is the pros/cons of 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7 and so on? (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 197reads )
是的,八强赛对阵已经在排名贴的里面贴出! 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 280reads )
Not by lucky draw of number first? (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 207reads )
第六轮战罢后排名(还剩最后一轮) 卷心菜   (45 bytes , 302reads )
第七轮前瞻(八强预测) 卷心菜   (1275 bytes , 332reads )
中午Peak Hour的时候去Clementi KFC 一刀n断   (239 bytes , 369reads )
Ranking Positions after Round 5 ...... 碧山   (232 bytes , 325reads )
Since men/women events is combined, what is the situation for ladies now? (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 454reads )
The three ladies, positions 11, 24 and 30. 碧山   (0 bytes , 404reads )
Will any of them be getting any monetary bonus? (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 284reads )
Maybe can give them a small bonus... kurubear   (159 bytes , 344reads )
祝贺kurubear第五轮执先妙手战胜对手,希望第六轮能再接再厉! 卷心菜   (46 bytes , 264reads )
前四轮战罢kurubear积2分成功保本,第五轮将先手迎战对手,加油加油! 卷心菜   (20 bytes , 399reads )
All JYJY and play well ! Encourage more people to play Division B next year (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 265reads )
Any confirmation regarding ........... 碧山   (165 bytes , 282reads )
As per mutual understanding, it should starting June/July 2009 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 311reads )
In this case, likely to see 廖明濠, 赖俊杰 and 卷心菜 move into ....... 碧山   (290 bytes , 306reads )
magician88一骑绝尘直奔乙级,waterchess冲级需过两个cai jun关 卷心菜   (780 bytes , 326reads )
前八即升乙级棋士? 桑原秀策   (0 bytes , 231reads )
Wow, caijun r u playing tonight? Eteng   (114 bytes , 408reads )
correction -- 廖铭濠.... 碧山   (62 bytes , 263reads )
希望 巫汉梃 或 陈靖麟 能夺冠 (加油!) 吕大侠   (0 bytes , 302reads )
ZJS和歌神非常强,看好这两位中坚棋手。 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 273reads )
We are both well known for being NUS Durian Brothers... ZJS   (62 bytes , 344reads )
榴莲兄弟。。。看来Cabbage由于太便宜而没人捡。 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 255reads )
My brother underestimated the value of cabbage last sunday....i won't. :-P ZJS   (30 bytes , 294reads )
He is more deadly than what he appears to be. :-) (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 227reads )
棋手精彩对局总贴 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 284reads )
棋桌喝茶--棋盘上面满是杯具(悲剧) 第7轮 一刀n断先和蔡俊杰 一刀n断   (1154 bytes , 590reads )
People say their chance greatly increased next year. Sort of good news (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 244reads )
On a related point for the future ... kurubear   (263 bytes , 471reads )
Who can help point out the missed chance? (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 285reads )
这局棋双方错进错处争夺的极为精彩,围观的人里三层外三层! 卷心菜   (119 bytes , 330reads )
第五轮对局: 赵金山 先负 廖铭濠 一刀n断   (434 bytes , 380reads )
Some ideas from this game.... kurubear   (2608 bytes , 328reads )
Do you play I chess? magician88   (98 bytes , 678reads )
Beginner player at both ... kurubear   (2083 bytes , 407reads )
第四轮对局:廖明濠 先胜 赖俊杰 吕大侠   (488 bytes , 398reads )
第二轮对局:廖明濠 先胜 陈世昌 吕大侠   (404 bytes , 367reads )
第二轮对局:杨亚池 先负 廖明濠 吕大侠   (434 bytes , 325reads )
第一轮对局:文传冠 先负 巫汉梃 吕大侠   (446 bytes , 455reads )
这局显示出了巫汉梃深厚的中残功力,其大刀阔斧的棋风不容小觑! 乾坤一统吴宗翰   (0 bytes , 464reads )
这局显示出了巫汉梃深厚的中残功力,其大刀阔斧的棋风不容小觑! 特级大师洪安豪   (0 bytes , 255reads )
冬冬不得了,西洋镜拆穿! peanut   (0 bytes , 262reads )
hey Huang RongYue 黄荣岳, pls stop using tejidashi hong an hao nickname, tnx HanTing   (0 bytes , 697reads )
第一轮对局:廖铭濠 先胜 阮俊辉 吕大侠   (440 bytes , 376reads )
Didnt really play well too. magician88   (161 bytes , 377reads )
你说得很对。这两步我就不多看了。:P 几度   (100 bytes , 278reads )
第一轮对局:赖俊杰(先)胜陈靖媗 卷心菜   (1138 bytes , 411reads )
各轮排阵表和成绩总贴 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 321reads )
第七轮排阵表:第一台:廖铭濠 先手对 施由炳 卷心菜   (45 bytes , 269reads )
第六轮对阵表:第一台:廖铭濠 先手对 林家勇 卷心菜   (45 bytes , 415reads )
第五轮对阵表:第一台赵金山先手对廖铭濠 卷心菜   (45 bytes , 610reads )
In theory, those in the first 16 boards are till having chances ........ 碧山   (361 bytes , 569reads )
历史回顾,2008年6月个人赛B组(58人参赛)七轮战罢,9人积5或5.5分 卷心菜   (2250 bytes , 372reads )
本届比赛由于参赛人数为43人,我估计七轮后对手分最高的两个4.5分的也能进入前八。 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 242reads )
第四轮对阵表:第一台廖铭濠先手对赖俊杰 卷心菜   (162 bytes , 402reads )
第四轮详细战报:文礼二少头台鏖战,火星地球激情碰撞。 卷心菜   (1839 bytes , 362reads )
老夫承认小廖的甲级实力。小子,全场基本你最强,别输棋让老夫失望。 桑原秀策   (0 bytes , 241reads )
还没对到特别强的,下来的才是硬仗。 几度   (22 bytes , 242reads )
恩 听闻昨日敬文大婚 恭喜恭喜 一刀n断   (38 bytes , 290reads )
应该说。。。 HanTing   (16 bytes , 308reads )
这就是所谓的蝴蝶效应?(butterfly effect) 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 286reads )
确实有蝴蝶效应 几度   (239 bytes , 282reads )
解釋 HanTing   (423 bytes , 413reads )
没有人怪你 几度   (88 bytes , 237reads )
的確 HanTing   (0 bytes , 268reads )
呵呵那么有义气的朋友真是我的荣幸。。 xiaobeidou   (0 bytes , 241reads )
放心,还有机会不要放弃,我相信你的实力! 吕大侠   (0 bytes , 377reads )
第三轮对阵表:第一台赖俊杰先手对林奕寰 卷心菜   (45 bytes , 474reads )
第二轮对阵表:第一台翁文龙先手对赖俊杰 卷心菜   (45 bytes , 381reads )
第一轮对阵表 几度   (86 bytes , 307reads )
照片3 几度   (213 bytes , 351reads )
照片2 几度   (352 bytes , 345reads )
照片1 几度   (379 bytes , 385reads )
场记 几度   (2518 bytes , 437reads )
第一轮对阵表(放大修正版):第一台赖俊杰先手对陈靖媗 卷心菜   (45 bytes , 383reads )
官方消息:个人赛B组报名人数超过40人,比赛照常进行。女子组选手合并进入B组。 卷心菜   (60 bytes , 296reads )
第一轮时间:星期五晚上七点半(2009年12月4日) 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 254reads )
召唤报名!还有最后一周的报名时间!如果达不到40人报名的话比赛将被取消! 卷心菜   (101 bytes , 284reads )
where is 黄建达 ? Top 8 of 新加坡全国象棋锦标赛2009年(第一季) ..... 碧山   (260 bytes , 487reads )
So the 2009-12 competition is on or not on or unconfirmed? (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 257reads )
照常举行 几度   (53 bytes , 314reads )
没有新闻=没有被取消=照常进行 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 280reads )
the competition is on without notice. whatever information here are unofficial. 碧山   (537 bytes , 289reads )
Enough people so far ? (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 256reads )
可能差一点 几度   (155 bytes , 258reads )
What is the reason behind the special number 40 people? (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 305reads )
This is more related to the justification of Fund spent by the sponsor and ... 碧山   (495 bytes , 355reads )
kurubear will be there kurubear   (170 bytes , 302reads )
Good Luck 风云剑   (199 bytes , 342reads )
你早就有亿级的水平了 xiaobeidou   (118 bytes , 278reads )
I also hope everyone can be at 亿级的水平 one day (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 240reads )
看过你的自评。你的棋应该还可以的多加油吧 xiaobeidou   (0 bytes , 222reads )
Thank you, xiaobeidou. You also jiayoujiayou TOP3 in China ASAP (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 329reads )
我是来凑数的~~ 王印   (59 bytes , 231reads )
qiaoqiao 问一下 华新活跃的棋友有多少报名了 功夫熊猫   (0 bytes , 252reads )
明天我去看看 几度   (47 bytes , 278reads )
我已經確定不參加這次比賽 minghui   (76 bytes , 259reads )
呵呵,明年再战! 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 227reads )
冠军预测和升乙级棋士称号的棋手预测 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 294reads )
冠军:胡伟良! 棋一生   (0 bytes , 267reads )
带头竞猜:冠军预测:廖铭濠。升乙级预测:廖铭濠,巫汉梃,蔡俊杰,赖俊杰 卷心菜   (136 bytes , 323reads )
排名不分先后 特级大师洪安豪   (0 bytes , 479reads )
特大你的预测排名呢?我的排名是分先后的。。。 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 262reads )
2009年全国赛B组(第二季)新闻总贴(2009年12月4日到12月20日在碧山象总举行) 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 250reads )
People said cat has 9 'lives'. I am indeed very lucky tonight... ZJS   (130 bytes , 284reads )
That why chess fun, is not about how good u r but how good u r at that game (NM) kurubear   (0 bytes , 274reads )
顶起来。 几度   (0 bytes , 217reads )
有个漏洞 几度   (82 bytes , 290reads )
从2009年开始计算吧。年的定义是每年度吧。 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 303reads )
Could it an improvement to 7+3 method ........ 碧山   (178 bytes , 306reads )