求助帖:悲催的妈想解决娃喝奶睡觉的问题
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作者:Chelseann (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:483) 发表:2012-12-12 09:42:32  楼主  关注此帖
求助帖:悲催的妈想解决娃喝奶睡觉的问题
我家宝宝马上18个月了。从她出生后一直是母乳 + 跟我同床睡。她3个多月我开始上班后,每天晚上我回家给她喂完奶,因为我太累,娘俩就直接都睡着了,她从此养成了奶睡的习惯。一个晚上她会叫唤2-3次,但是没有睁开眼,而我也一直偷懒,直接亲喂,让她继续睡。这种情况一直持续到最近,因为准备断奶,也想培养她自己睡觉,所以开始改变睡前模式,变成吃奶、洗澡、看书、睡觉。娃有时表现好,睡前不亲喂,她也就嚷嚷一会儿,自己睡着。但有时就是不肯自己睡,折腾到凌晨1点多。

其实娃是可以自己睡的,白天不用我喂奶能自己睡,有时需要人抱抱才可以睡着,但是有时自己在床上多翻几次也睡着了。

我的理解是,她需要RT比需要喝奶多,RT就是她的pacifier,含着她就睡着了。因为我们试过睡前给她用奶瓶喝奶,但是她不怎么喝,还是吵着要我喂。我下午6点多才挤完奶,到晚上睡觉10点左右其实并没有产生多少奶,而且现在每天晚上回家,都被她拉着要先吃奶,才肯放我去吃饭。。。555。。。她就是依恋RT。

而且她这么大了也从来没有睡过整夜,我也跟着没有整夜觉睡。。。累啊。。。

姐妹们有什么好办法,让娃断夜奶,再断奶?谢谢!!!
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作者:lotus (等级:5 - 略有小成,发帖:848) 发表:2012-12-12 10:57:05  2楼
一样一样的啊,同求助!
我家虽然是自己睡小床,睡几个小时就长起来,只有给他喂奶才能让他重新入睡,我觉得他不饿的。
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作者:Chelseann (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:483) 发表:2012-12-12 11:26:38  3楼
一样一样的啊,同求助!我家虽然是自己睡小床,睡几个小时就长起来,只有给他喂奶才能让他重新入睡,我觉得他不饿的。
跟你家娃一样,我家睡小床的话也是睡几个小时就站起来,所以我干脆让她跟我睡
niuma有啥好办法?看你前不久的帖子,你女儿也是奶睡?
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作者:Chelseann (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:483) 发表:2012-12-13 14:32:54  4楼
Mango姐姐请进
之前看到版上有妈妈推荐你断奶的方法,但是找不到你的帖子了。。。
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作者:niumum (等级:6 - 驾轻就熟,发帖:5271) 发表:2012-12-13 14:39:07  5楼
跟你家娃一样,我家睡小床的话也是睡几个小时就站起来,所以我干脆让她跟我睡niuma有啥好办法?看你前不久的帖子,你女儿也是奶睡?
我觉得唯一的方法是妈妈出差一周
9月的时候我出差3天,孩子没奶也照样睡,可是团聚时立刻就要含奶。可能我那时没下决心要断,可能分隔的时间不长,就错过了那次断奶的机会。

我老大是冷火鸡断的,因为怀孕了,就开始和外婆睡,哭了几个晚上就好了。
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作者:niumum (等级:6 - 驾轻就熟,发帖:5271) 发表:2012-12-13 14:40:31  6楼
Mango姐姐请进之前看到版上有妈妈推荐你断奶的方法,但是找不到你的帖子了。。。
没记错的话芒果那时讨论的是断产的问题
不是断亲喂
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作者:dengyizhen (等级:6 - 驾轻就熟,发帖:1016) 发表:2012-12-14 09:11:19  7楼
她看ipad吗? 给她看店儿童歌曲/故事的视频哄睡?
我女儿就是这样断了奶睡了。 但是半夜醒来要奶吃的时候我就不给ipad了, 怕养成习惯了以后都要看午夜场。 就慢慢减少次数, 醒3次给1次这样, 其余两次就和她耗着, 拍-哄-唱歌-按摩-装睡等都试过, 反正坚持不给奶就是了。 这段时间妈妈会辛苦一点。 好在我女儿只用了一周就完全断了夜奶了, 也就是彻底断奶了。断奶之后她睡得比以前好, 基本睡整觉了, 我也能睡整觉了。
18个月的宝宝要吃母乳基本只是寻求个安慰而已, 你试着找其他替代物来给她安慰。 我女儿是有天晚上耗不过我, 就突然要摸我的肚皮, 然后就睡着了,从此以后半夜再也不找奶了, 找肚皮就行了。
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作者:Chelseann (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:483) 发表:2012-12-14 17:30:05  8楼
她看ipad吗? 给她看店儿童歌曲/故事的视频哄睡?我女儿就是这样断了奶睡了。 但是半夜醒来要奶吃的时候我就不给ipad了, 怕养成习惯了以后都要看午夜场。 就慢慢减少次数, 醒3次给1次这样, 其余两次就和她耗着, 拍-哄-唱歌-按摩-装睡等都试过, 反正坚持不给奶就是了。 这段时间妈妈会辛苦一点。 好在我女儿只用了一周就完全断了夜奶了, 也就是彻底断奶了。断奶之后她睡得比以前好, 基本睡整觉了, 我也能睡整觉了。 18个月的宝宝要吃母乳基本只是寻求个安慰而已, 你试着找其他替代物来给她安慰。 我女儿是有天晚上耗不过我, 就突然要摸我的肚皮, 然后就睡着了,从此以后半夜再也不找奶了, 找肚皮就行了。
恩,我试试,谢谢!!
我承认我偷懒,而且听不得她哭,一心软就给吃了,555
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作者:fkcc (等级:5 - 略有小成,发帖:1620) 发表:2012-12-14 23:21:39  9楼
老大那会儿就是给水不给奶。
闹了两夜,完了自己要求手牵手(其实是扣我的指甲)睡觉,一直就这么睡下来了。

老二我有些担心,因为夜里怕吵着老大所以他一闹我就赶紧塞过去。现在已经发展到,我稍微晚一点他就故意叫了,断奶估计很难。
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作者:红线 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:519) 发表:2012-12-19 00:15:49  10楼
妹妹的娃牙出的怎么样?我个人猜测牙出的多一点以后,断奶会自然而然的。不用急
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作者:Chelseann (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:483) 发表:2012-12-19 09:29:53  11楼 评分:
成功断夜奶了
第一个晚上,洗澡之前就喂奶,然后刷牙、洗澡、讲故事,坚持不奶睡。好不容易娃自己11点多睡着了。接着2点多醒,不给奶吃,各种吵闹、大哭、尖叫,我只能抱起她来,跟她说“宝宝,你睡觉之前刚吃完奶,所以现在没有奶了,要等一等才有,等你睡觉起来,天亮了,就有奶吃了。你看,外面天是黑的,所有人都睡觉了,宝宝也睡觉吧。”多说几遍,她就安静了,再抱着哄哄她,然后把她放上床,再折腾一会就睡着了。3点多再醒,同样的方法,再次哄睡。6点醒,奶睡。一个晚上折腾得我早上起来累得声音都变了。

重复了几个这样的晚上。其中,娃有几天折腾到12点多、1点多才睡,搞得我非常崩溃。好在晚上醒来后不喝夜奶也可以继续睡了。现在晚上也会哼哼,叫“妈妈”,把我吵醒(我睡得很浅),但是不用喂奶,拍拍她,她就能继续睡到5、6点,然后我再喂点奶。

断夜奶没有我想象的难。有几个原因,一,宝宝能听懂一些话,所以跟她讲道理起作用;二,提早喂奶,让宝宝知道刚刚吃完,没有那么快就有奶;三,坚持固定的睡前模式,让她能预期讲完故事就是睡觉的时间。

另外,一个星期没喂夜奶,我的产量马上就降低了一半,看来很快就能完全断奶了。
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作者:lotus (等级:5 - 略有小成,发帖:848) 发表:2012-12-27 21:05:02  12楼
成功断夜奶了第一个晚上,洗澡之前就喂奶,然后刷牙、洗澡、讲故事,坚持不奶睡。好不容易娃自己11点多睡着了。接着2点多醒,不给奶吃,各种吵闹、大哭、尖叫,我只能抱起她来,跟她说“宝宝,你睡觉之前刚吃完奶,所以现在没有奶了,要等一等才有,等你睡觉起来,天亮了,就有奶吃了。你看,外面天是黑的,所有人都睡觉了,宝宝也睡觉吧。”多说几遍,她就安静了,再抱着哄哄她,然后把她放上床,再折腾一会就睡着了。3点多再醒,同样的方法,再次哄睡。6点醒,奶睡。一个晚上折腾得我早上起来累得声音都变了。 重复了几个这样的晚上。其中,娃有几天折腾到12点多、1点多才睡,搞得我非常崩溃。好在晚上醒来后不喝夜奶也可以继续睡了。现在晚上也会哼哼,叫“妈妈”,把我吵醒(我睡得很浅),但是不用喂奶,拍拍她,她就能继续睡到5、6点,然后我再喂点奶。 断夜奶没有我想象的难。有几个原因,一,宝宝能听懂一些话,所以跟她讲道理起作用;二,提早喂奶,让宝宝知道刚刚吃完,没有那么快就有奶;三,坚持固定的睡前模式,让她能预期讲完故事就是睡觉的时间。 另外,一个星期没喂夜奶,我的产量马上就降低了一半,看来很快就能完全断奶了。
我试了三个晚上了,还是不行啊,动摇要不要sleep training了!
半夜醒来,不给吃奶,不干,哭,蹬腿,后来要求下楼。娘亲啊,2点要求下楼玩!!!第一天下楼过程就睡了,第二天下楼越来越精神,折腾一个来小时,回来不得不奶睡。第三天让我婆婆对付他,没下楼,也睡了。宝宝的睡眠时间由于这样折腾,少了很多。会不会影响他生长啊?我家孩子脾气不好,不是讲讲道理就行的。实在不行我还是接着夜奶得了!
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作者:空气x泡泡 (等级:4 - 马马虎虎,发帖:1197) 发表:2012-12-28 08:31:08  13楼
成功断夜奶了第一个晚上,洗澡之前就喂奶,然后刷牙、洗澡、讲故事,坚持不奶睡。好不容易娃自己11点多睡着了。接着2点多醒,不给奶吃,各种吵闹、大哭、尖叫,我只能抱起她来,跟她说“宝宝,你睡觉之前刚吃完奶,所以现在没有奶了,要等一等才有,等你睡觉起来,天亮了,就有奶吃了。你看,外面天是黑的,所有人都睡觉了,宝宝也睡觉吧。”多说几遍,她就安静了,再抱着哄哄她,然后把她放上床,再折腾一会就睡着了。3点多再醒,同样的方法,再次哄睡。6点醒,奶睡。一个晚上折腾得我早上起来累得声音都变了。 重复了几个这样的晚上。其中,娃有几天折腾到12点多、1点多才睡,搞得我非常崩溃。好在晚上醒来后不喝夜奶也可以继续睡了。现在晚上也会哼哼,叫“妈妈”,把我吵醒(我睡得很浅),但是不用喂奶,拍拍她,她就能继续睡到5、6点,然后我再喂点奶。 断夜奶没有我想象的难。有几个原因,一,宝宝能听懂一些话,所以跟她讲道理起作用;二,提早喂奶,让宝宝知道刚刚吃完,没有那么快就有奶;三,坚持固定的睡前模式,让她能预期讲完故事就是睡觉的时间。 另外,一个星期没喂夜奶,我的产量马上就降低了一半,看来很快就能完全断奶了。
宝宝 几个月了?
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作者:lotus (等级:5 - 略有小成,发帖:848) 发表:2012-12-28 10:43:23  14楼
16个月,昨天小孩儿跟奶奶睡了,闹了一次,奶奶给平复了,早上6:30才第一次吃奶。
我再坚持几天看看!希望可以戒掉夜奶!
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作者:Chelseann (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:483) 发表:2012-12-28 15:08:33  15楼
16个月,昨天小孩儿跟奶奶睡了,闹了一次,奶奶给平复了,早上6:30才第一次吃奶。我再坚持几天看看!希望可以戒掉夜奶!
嘎嘎,坚持就是胜利!!
我家宝宝也有反复,比如偶尔醒来后不给奶就大哭。但是总体是有进步的,醒来的时间比以前晚,而且偶尔能一觉睡到快6点。

这个年纪的孩子,的确是不需要夜奶了。

我是一直偷懒,奶睡到现在才戒。
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作者:niumum (等级:6 - 驾轻就熟,发帖:5271) 发表:2012-12-29 18:26:35  16楼
本来我还不介意适当的时机断奶,偏偏这段时间三大姑八大姨都在念我断
说我的奶不新鲜了?次奥,我就偏不断



Why Mothers Nurse Their Children into Toddlerhood
by Norma Jane Bumgarner

When I ask mothers who have nursed longer than a year why they chose to do so, they usually say, "It just seemed natural," or, "He seemed to need it still." Some mothers, taking their cues from the child rather than the calendar, say, "I never even thought about it."
One mother describes the way she felt about her child's continued nursing: "I knew and felt her need for me and her desire to nurse. I love her, and it would break my own heart to disappoint her and refuse myself to her." If we look past all the social rules, and look at the children these rules are supposed to benefit, as did this mother, it is not difficult to see the need our children have for continued nursing - their joy in nursing and their distress when it is denied. A simple but compelling reason for continuing to nurse is to please the child. More and more mothers are watching their children and seeing the need that is there.

Nursing is not only a pleasure, but also quite a convenience. A major task in mothering is helping your child several times daily to overcome fears or hurts or exhaustion. There are various ways to comfort a crying child - walking, rocking, singing - but none is easier or more efficient than nursing. It has been described as a little bit of magic on your side: presto, a fussy child is happy again.

It is nothing short of amazing how quickly a bruise or scrape stops hurting when the first-aid includes nursing. And if it is more than a bruise or a scrape, the fact that nursing does not seem to make the pain go away, tells you quickly that you are dealing with a bigger hurt that may need extra attention. Other methods do quiet children, too, but the psychological network of the very young seems to be wired with nursing as the choice channel for feeling better. Though not all children will verbalize it, nursing toddlers no doubt appreciate nursing for comfort as much as did the two-year-old who, having fallen and then nursed, amply rewarded her mother by saying, "Thanks, Mom, for nursing me. Bye now, I'll be okay."

Teething is the most recurrent physiological cause for discomfort in little children, and when new teeth are making their gums sore, little ones often ask for a great deal of time at the breast. Many a nursing mother has been pleased to help her child through the discomfort of teething with nursing alone, or perhaps with nursing for soothing and cold celery for biting. Of course we are glad sometimes for the relief that aspirin or anesthetic ointments can bring when gums get really painful. It is gratifying, however, to be able to keep our reliance upon chemical comforters to a minimum through use of a natural analgesic: nursing.

Being very close to a warm, cuddly child is the advantage mothers like best about extended nursing. "I used to believe," one mother says, "any mother who continued nursing after so many years had unmet needs of her own that nursing was satisfying." But this mother found as her own nursling grew older that those "unmet needs" she was worried about were actually normal, healthy needs that are intended to be met by nursing.

No matter how much effort has gone into the selling of distance between mother and child - distance achieved by mother substitutes, like playpens and pacifiers, and by child substitutes, like hobbies and pets - mothers, it seems, cannot be changed. We still are happiest when we can hold our children close.

Comforting a sleepy child at bed time and nap time is so easy for families when the little one is nursing. Rarely do nursing families experience the fuss and tension we have come to expect in our culture when a little one needs to go to sleep. Nursing is so effective a tranquilizer for tired children that fathers tease their wives about their "knock-out drops." Few families who have experienced a nursing child's bedtime or nap time will ever want to rear a child any other way

Mothers also nurse their children to help them overcome upsets, emotional as well as physical. Most mothers, even if they do plan to wean, refrain from doing so during an upheaval such as a family crisis or a move. Nursing is too beneficial to children when their families are upset or in transition to cut it off at a time when the child may especially need it. One mother whose family experienced half a year of illness and loss wrote about nursing her daughter during this difficult time: "Nursing has certainly helped her; it has been like an anchor in a storm."

Though little ones who are nursing do experience illness, their time at the breast is an investment toward their good health. Your bloodstream and - to almost that same degree - your milk, carry antibodies to the infectious diseases you have encountered. Researchers are discovering new immunological factors in the living fluid that is mother's milk at a breathtaking rate these days. One of the antibodies, IgG, is in a form that is destroyed by digestion. But others, such as IgA and certain human milk leukocytes, have been shown to be quite active in helping little ones fight off disease. IgA, by way of illustration, protects by serving as a potent barrier, preventing your nursing child from being infected by specific organisms through his intestinal tract.

Most parents who have had the experience of caring for a nursing toddler cannot imagine rearing subsequent children any other way. Only four or five of the nearly one thousand mothers who wrote to me about nursing past one year said that they would not do so again. And the very few who did not want to repeat the experience were overwhelmed, not by nursing, but by the attitudes of other people who were against the nursing.

A few fortunate mothers have had even more than their own experience to help them enjoy a long nursing relationship. One mother says, "My mother nursed me until I was two, so I had a good backup source." Another wrote, "My grandmother and great-grandmother both nursed their children as long as the children wanted to nurse, and I received encouragement and support from both of them." People who have nursed well past infancy have learned in their own homes what a good thing extended nursing is and would rarely advocate any alternatives for themselves - or for their grandchildren. An increasing number of parents or grandparents will agree with the mother who wrote, "Of course I would nurse past infancy again - he turned out so cute and nice and smart," or the parents who said, "We found that the longer we nursed our kids, the better they turned out."

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作者:niumum (等级:6 - 驾轻就熟,发帖:5271) 发表:2012-12-29 20:26:57  17楼
本来我还不介意适当的时机断奶,偏偏这段时间三大姑八大姨都在念我断说我的奶不新鲜了?次奥,我就偏不断 Why Mothers Nurse Their Children into Toddlerhood by Norma Jane Bumgarner When I ask mothers who have nursed longer than a year why they chose to do so, they usually say, "It just seemed natural," or, "He seemed to need it still." Some mothers, taking their cues from the child rather than the calendar, say, "I never even thought about it." One mother describes the way she felt about her child's continued nursing: "I knew and felt her need for me and her desire to nurse. I love her, and it would break my own heart to disappoint her and refuse myself to her." If we look past all the social rules, and look at the children these rules are supposed to benefit, as did this mother, it is not difficult to see the need our children have for continued nursing - their joy in nursing and their distress when it is denied. A simple but compelling reason for continuing to nurse is to please the child. More and more mothers (more...)
看了kellymom我更坚定信心了
A US Surgeon General has stated that it is a lucky baby who continues to nurse until age two. (Novello 1990)



http://kellymom.com/ages/older-infant/ebf-benefits/
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作者:无双妹 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:452) 发表:2012-12-30 23:18:51  18楼
她看ipad吗? 给她看店儿童歌曲/故事的视频哄睡?我女儿就是这样断了奶睡了。 但是半夜醒来要奶吃的时候我就不给ipad了, 怕养成习惯了以后都要看午夜场。 就慢慢减少次数, 醒3次给1次这样, 其余两次就和她耗着, 拍-哄-唱歌-按摩-装睡等都试过, 反正坚持不给奶就是了。 这段时间妈妈会辛苦一点。 好在我女儿只用了一周就完全断了夜奶了, 也就是彻底断奶了。断奶之后她睡得比以前好, 基本睡整觉了, 我也能睡整觉了。 18个月的宝宝要吃母乳基本只是寻求个安慰而已, 你试着找其他替代物来给她安慰。 我女儿是有天晚上耗不过我, 就突然要摸我的肚皮, 然后就睡着了,从此以后半夜再也不找奶了, 找肚皮就行了。
同求助,我家宝宝也差不多18个月了,每晚还要醒来吃2,3次formular,唉...
晚上大概8点多喝奶,哄睡。我偷懒,宝宝和女佣睡,有时我们轮流。她晚上大概每隔3个小时会翻身找奶喝,能够及时送到嘴边的话,喝完就睡了,但是如果泡晚了,她完全醒了的话就会哭闹一阵,有时会爬起来,下床到处走的玩,折腾个把小时才肯再睡。所以搞的大人神经兮兮的,她一有点动静就时刻准备着冲出去泡奶。
眼瞅着朋友家几个月的宝宝都可以睡整夜了,本来想着要不要狠点心让她哭几夜,把夜奶给戒掉,但是奇怪的是她现在白天除了吃主食,点心时间喝奶的话最多只能喝120ml左右,可是晚上夜奶竟然每次可以喝到180ml,最近更有时可以喝到200ml,简直是一天的奶量似乎都集中在晚上了。要知道她吃辅食前的奶量都没超过150ml啊,这样子让我觉得她在半夜是不是真的那么饿啊?!她吃晚餐的时间比较早,大概5点多,通常是煮的各种粥,有朋友建议推迟一点晚餐时间,但是也试过给她6点多七点吃,晚上还是一样会醒来2,3次喝奶。
请宝妈们支招啊,谢谢。
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作者:Chelseann (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:483) 发表:2012-12-31 00:21:51  19楼
看了kellymom我更坚定信心了A US Surgeon General has stated that it is a lucky baby who continues to nurse until age two. (Novello 1990) http://kellymom.com/ages/older-infant/ebf-benefits/
我断奶时为了在蛇年生老二
一直喂奶,一直没MC,只能断奶,555。
要是没有生老二的压力,我也不介意继续喂下去。
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作者:Chelseann (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:483) 发表:2012-12-31 00:32:46  20楼
同求助,我家宝宝也差不多18个月了,每晚还要醒来吃2,3次formular,唉...晚上大概8点多喝奶,哄睡。我偷懒,宝宝和女佣睡,有时我们轮流。她晚上大概每隔3个小时会翻身找奶喝,能够及时送到嘴边的话,喝完就睡了,但是如果泡晚了,她完全醒了的话就会哭闹一阵,有时会爬起来,下床到处走的玩,折腾个把小时才肯再睡。所以搞的大人神经兮兮的,她一有点动静就时刻准备着冲出去泡奶。 眼瞅着朋友家几个月的宝宝都可以睡整夜了,本来想着要不要狠点心让她哭几夜,把夜奶给戒掉,但是奇怪的是她现在白天除了吃主食,点心时间喝奶的话最多只能喝120ml左右,可是晚上夜奶竟然每次可以喝到180ml,最近更有时可以喝到200ml,简直是一天的奶量似乎都集中在晚上了。要知道她吃辅食前的奶量都没超过150ml啊,这样子让我觉得她在半夜是不是真的那么饿啊?!她吃晚餐的时间比较早,大概5点多,通常是煮的各种粥,有朋友建议推迟一点晚餐时间,但是也试过给她6点多七点吃,晚上还是一样会醒来2,3次喝奶。 请宝妈们支招啊,谢谢。
个人觉得是习惯问题,如果晚上不给宝宝吃奶,她白天一定能多吃点的
再说也没有必要每天都要求宝宝吃到书上写的那么多的食物和奶,之前不是有讨论说宝宝最知道自己要吃多少,所以不必强求一定吃多少量。

我也是一直在理论和实际之间找平衡。不能不信书,太信书又教条了。

我家宝宝是18个月的女娃,一般一次吃奶也就120ml上下。长这么大最多一两次吃了150ml,但是从来没超过150ml。我看她长得挺好,13.5kg,88cm,至少在90% percentile。
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