求教 - 去国外工作我是SM3,刚毕业,收到一个欧洲公司(not Singpaore registered)的interview的机会. 拿到offer 的话就飞去欧洲了. 因为只是一个interview, 所以还不敢去惊动MOE, 上来问问大家:
1. 6年的合约有没有可能延后履行? 比如说去欧洲工作个2,3年积累经验再回来,有没有这样的先例?
2. 如果赔钱的话赔多少? (Engineering, NUS, 2001 intake), 可不可能分期赔? 一次要我拿十几万我可拿不出来.
3. 除了7月中的graduation ceremony学校还有什么活动? 成绩单跟毕业证书是那个时候拿吗? 是不是过了ceremony 就可以飞走了?
谢谢大家的回复![louis (6-7 14:27, Long long ago)]
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这是很敏感的问题哦我相信能回答你问题的人也不会跑出来回答的...
最重要一点: 你的担保人是谁? 跑之前最好联系一下他们, 算负责任...
[江南渔夫 (6-7 15:34, Long long ago)]
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(引用 江南渔夫:这是很敏感的问题哦我相信能回答你问题的人也不会跑出来回答的... 最重要一点: 你的担保人是谁? 跑之前最好联系一下他们, 算负责任... )担保人通常是父母吧，所谓跑的了和尚跑不了庙。。。[dfren (6-7 15:42, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]3楼
(引用 江南渔夫:这是很敏感的问题哦我相信能回答你问题的人也不会跑出来回答的... 最重要一点: 你的担保人是谁? 跑之前最好联系一下他们, 算负责任... )我不是想跑,我就是想负责任啊. 我是想知道以前有没有人负责,怎样负责?[louis (6-7 16:02, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]4楼
前3年应该是当地的PR或者local帮你担保的tuition。如果你跑了，MOE要办你的话，他们就惨了。所以最好和当初帮你签字的人通通气。当初有朋友一下子帮10多个junior朋友签，风险太大了。
后面3年好像是自己的父母签的。[无名 (6-7 19:14, Long long ago)]
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呵呵, 谢谢解答, 不过大家好像误解我的意思了我现在只是有一个面试的机会, 所以还不想去找MOE. 如果真的拿到了offer, 我会去找MOE协商的.
我不会就这样拍拍屁股跑掉的, 我是想了解一下如果要负责的话, 有什么途径, 合约可不可以延后? 如果赔钱, 赔多少,怎么赔? 我想先了解了解,以后跟MOE谈话时也好心里有个数.[louis (6-7 19:32, Long long ago)]
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(引用 louis:呵呵, 谢谢解答, 不过大家好像误解我的意思了我现在只是有一个面试的机会, 所以还不想去找MOE. 如果真的拿到了offer, 我会去找MOE协商的....)就我知道的, 这样的case会被当成是毁约因为MOE不愿意等的. 你可以说两三年后才回来服务六年, 当然也可以说二三十年之后才回来服务六年, 你说MOE怎么个等法.
这方面不是年数上加加减减这么简单, 完全要看MOE的态度如何.
赔偿方面, 就我听说有人给六七万吧, 不知道是不是全部, 应该没有分期付款, 要一次付清的吧. [江南渔夫 (6-7 20:26, Long long ago)]
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(引用 江南渔夫:就我知道的, 这样的case会被当成是毁约因为MOE不愿意等的. 你可以说两三年后才回来服务六年, 当然也可以说二三十年之后才回来服务六年, �...)也听说过有人放了10多万的deposit在MOEMOE可以让你走，在规定的时间内回来的。
赔六七万也是太多了。嘿嘿。不知道要工作多少年才可以。：）
[无名 (6-7 21:55, Long long ago)]
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If you want to deferYou can get a banker's guarantee.
For example, you family has a big house in China, then you can let the bank access its value, than produce a guarantee for you, then pass to MOE.
Otherwise, you have to put cash in bank to serve as a guarantee, in which case, if you have so much cash, better just pay to MOE directly.[周星驰 (6-7 23:49, Long long ago)]
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(引用 dfren:担保人通常是父母吧，所谓跑的了和尚跑不了庙。。。)自己直接去MOE问问吧去之前把那一堆合约拿出来读读。
不过说句不好听的话， 虽然你现在说将来还会回来，但很难让人相信。所以你应该做出一点行动，比如deposit some amount of money给MOE.[realtwo (6-8 9:01, Long long ago)]
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how did you find this overseas job? Will interview be done over phone or else?[Update (6-8 14:15, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]11楼
(引用 Update:how did you find this overseas job? Will interview be done over phone or else?)Actually the job fund meAn unknown agency emailed me and introduced this job opportunity to me (I don't know how they got my profile, maybe I posted my resume to some website and they happened to see it?). So up to now I'm still not sure how reliable it would be~~~
I had a face-to-face interview with the agency HR officer just now, and there will be another interview conducting by HR officer from the Holland company next week, he/she will come to Singapore. I don't know the company's name yet, all I know is, it is a very big mobile phone company.
I believe there are some other PRC ppl who are also applying this job. Got time? Let's talk talk~~~ :P
BTW, if you possess a Bachelor degrees and happens to be majoring in Microwave and RF Engineering and currently seeking a job, u can email me ASAP. I can't guaranty to get the offer, even for myself, but I would like to help. :)(bobliuyi@hotmail.com) [louis (6-8 16:09, Long long ago)]
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(引用 江南渔夫:就我知道的, 这样的case会被当成是毁约因为MOE不愿意等的. 你可以说两三年后才回来服务六年, 当然也可以说二三十年之后才回来服务六年, �...)6,7万和10多万是新币还是RMB? RMB的话似乎少了点, 新币的话是不是有点多啊~~[louis (6-8 18:19, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]13楼
long term post? There are also such cases in 2000 batch[ropin (6-8 20:10, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]14楼
(引用 ropin:long term post? There are also such cases in 2000 batch)This is a 2-year contract. Can you provide the details? Thank you very much!if not convenient here, can E-mail me? Thank you!!
bobliuyi@hotmail.com[louis (6-8 20:17, Long long ago)]
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(引用 louis:This is a 2-year contract. Can you provide the details? Thank you very much!if not convenient here, can E-mail me? Thank you!!
...)As to my knowledge...It's not considered breaking the contract if your payroll is in Singapore, i.e. your payroll is under a subsidiary / holding company of the foreign company. It's categorized into "oversea posting".
However, if your payroll is be to under the company in Holland, you are considered breaking the contract.[请合法使用软件 (6-8 21:05, Long long ago)]
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(引用 louis:我不是想跑,我就是想负责任啊. 我是想知道以前有没有人负责,怎样负责?)我那届有人赔了28万人民币给MOE，也有一分钱没给的。。。现在都在美国读书。。。
MOE那边，你可以再签一份合约，找好担保人，定好服务期。。。再说，你现在只是interview，到offer还有一段距离。。。先集中精力拿下interview吧，祝好运。[Garry (6-10 9:01, Long long ago)]
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(引用 louis:6,7万和10多万是新币还是RMB? RMB的话似乎少了点, 新币的话是不是有点多啊~~)新币, 很正常啊一年学费 + 生活费 要多少? 四年乘以四. 还要算利息, 那可不低...[江南渔夫 (6-10 11:29, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]18楼
(引用 dfren:担保人通常是父母吧，所谓跑的了和尚跑不了庙。。。)that's just for scholarshipnot for tuition loan[海风 (6-10 12:48, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]19楼
(引用 请合法使用软件:As to my knowledge...It's not considered breaking the contract if your payroll is in Singapore, i.e. your payroll is under a sub...)easy to distinguish. if you get CPF then you are localif no CPF, too bad, you break the bond[海风 (6-10 12:52, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]20楼