Kula, Geil Memory question.How is your Geil Memory module, what is the highest fsb can you achieve in 1:1 ratio? mine i can get is work as 2.5-4-4-7 at 275Mhz under 2.8v, boot to windows successfully with 275*9=2475Mhz, i have not done any detailed testing yet, only use prime95 to run the blend testing, the machine can keep running 1-3 hours before errors. i try to change to 280Mhz, it can not even display the agp screen and i have to reset the bios. i check the online Geil pc4400 it is running at 3-4-4-8 at 275Mhz with the same chips, but if i change to 3-4-4-8 timing, it is also not stable & even worse. 1-2 hour it will fail.i think the reason is that the abit board k8vpro can only support 2.8v mem voltage so far. i am not sure if abit will release newer bios to support higher voltage for memory(the Geil's working voltage 2.6v-3.1v). now the sandra test result for 2.5-4-4-7 275Mhz is 3700+MB/s and 3-4-4-8 3670MB/s both with 84% efficiency. if it can work stably with 275*9, i will use it rather than push the (more...)

I think now the heat for Mem is not a problem any moresince I add a home-made memory cooling system for this guy. i find the abit k8vpro 2 mem slots are so close to each other. the inside heat is hard to be blowed off. I use an old coolermaster cpu fan to attach on the memory, and a small cable to fasten it. now even @275Mhz full load for memory, i can not feel it warm when i use hand to tough it( of course, i need to clear the static first by touching the casing :-).) if you are insterested my work, i can take a photo of it, after i finish that i feel the cpu temp is also affected--cooled down by around 8-10 degree. now for the system since i will not oc the cpu further and the heat is not a problem for memory, i believe any instability is caused the hardware physical quality and bios settings (also maybe the microsoft OS disability but yet i have not tested the pc under linux or solaris). now the pc sometimes hangs when playing games @275*9 v cpu@1.55 mem@2.80. I think maybe it is caused by the nvidia drive (more...)

what is your msn email? I can send you the shots.most of them are big size, and even I resize I can not find any online pic lib yet.

I think now the heat for Mem is not a problem any moresince I add a home-made memory cooling system for this guy. i find the abit k8vpro 2 mem slots are so close to each other. the inside heat is hard to be blowed off. I use an old coolermaster cpu fan to attach on the memory, and a small cable to fasten it. now even @275Mhz full load for memory, i can not feel it warm when i use hand to tough it( of course, i need to clear the static first by touching the casing :-).) if you are insterested my work, i can take a photo of it, after i finish that i feel the cpu temp is also affected--cooled down by around 8-10 degree. now for the system since i will not oc the cpu further and the heat is not a problem for memory, i believe any instability is caused the hardware physical quality and bios settings (also maybe the microsoft OS disability but yet i have not tested the pc under linux or solaris). now the pc sometimes hangs when playing games @275*9 v cpu@1.55 mem@2.80. I think maybe it is caused by the nvidia drive (more...)

you oc your graphic card at the same time? I find the bios AGP 2 options defaultis disabled, you can try to turn on them to see if any stability gain and performance drop and decide.Also i find the nv refresh rate lock maybe a problem for this case. and i use powerstrip maybe also a reason for hang. any alternative solution with same function of powerstrip? i can not find the right crack for that. For memory 273Mhz @2.8V 3-4-4-8 with my home-made cooling, yesterday i tested the prime95 memory torture test. I stopped it after around 19 hours without any errors. i find in this speed the best CAS bootable into windows is 2.5 the the best timing i find is 2.5-4-4-10. the 4-4 can not be tweaked further and the command is auto in my setting( it is actually in 2T mode since if i mannul set 1T even can not show agp screen). for the 10 cycle time in 2.5-4-4-10, it is the most efficient way and give you the best performance for L1&L2 cache under sciencemark 2.0, but it doestn't boost any memory throughoutput under sand (more...)

Sent already to your hotmail.as far as i know, a lot of ppl got the same problem with me with the 3-D game hang. everytime it happened, the pc stops responding and screen freezed, but it is only at the time i play some 3-D games, the system dump is showing that the bugcheck is "The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x000000ea (0x865b1b38, 0x8695fd20, 0xf7a53cb4, 0x00000001). A full dump was not saved." this message ,accoding to MS official site, is due to the display video card driver programmed badly and make the system into infinite loop. i have tested the prime95 for memory for up to 19 hours no errors, so i feel if the cooling is good, it will not be the memory problem but the V-card driver. also i suspect the via 4 in 1 drivers, since i find a lot of reports about this error, regardless it is a nv or ati card, seem all via chipset range from kt333 until kt800**. hope you can find out some solution.

how is your recent progress for the memory speed?

it will not become soft while hotter. as far as i know, the shape of the stickerwill change only at the time you scrub and pull it, after that the shape will be fixed. i think unless it is more than 100 degree else the sticker will not change the shape. so far it is quite ok for me, i check it quite a few times, very solid :-) you need think over about the fan if you want to buy one because you need plan the size and the speed of the fan. mine is CM one 5200 rpm, i feel 2000-4000 will be ok because the heat over Mem is not that much while comparing to cpu. i will try 280-300 fsb tonight---sounds crazy.

Highest @ 277MHz workable.280+ for Mem can not start windows and sometimes needs clear CMOS, 279 can go in but the login windows fails, 278 can login but memory testing fail. for both 278&279, they fail at BSOD and tell me the memory management errors. 277 can do most of the things, but not stable. conservative setting is 275Mhz(2 Mhz less than the 277) at this time, even can use 2.5-4-4-7 aggressive timing. at this speed in my rig, it is stable and can pass the prime95 memory test but the cpu will fail after around 1 hour. when playing games, the nv_disp.dll error will come out.@ 273Mhz(274 Skipped) can pass both cpu and mem prime95 test (more than 5 hours testing for both). even so @270 game is always a headache due to the nv_disp.dll. conclusion and analysis: (1)so far this board can only support 2.8v for mem, in the future if in any chance 3.1v is provided, it is very likely that the mem can run @290Mhz with 3-4-4-8(maybe a little cooling needed). (2) the possible reason why game always trouble the syste (more...)

sure, the Prerequisite is the modded bios or newer official bios released fromAbit, else even we have money to buy the necessary equipment, we still cannot achieve more. for multiplier 10, i believe the highest maybe 250*10 under normal original fan cooling. to increase the fsb further more, we must wait for the newer bios. yesterday i can manage to boot into 300*6 under 6:5 ratio, but it is no value for us. higher fsb will make system less stable. anyway now i am using 246*10 to play safe, everything seems good and goes smoothly. we have already squeeze a lot from this poor 3000+ cpu. I am satisfied now. BUT i am also eagerly waiting for the new bios release because I believe the Geil UP ram has far more potential to be OCed. One more strange thing, so far I read a lot of articles about the AMD64 3000+ OC, it seems most of them are under 2.3Ghz even in very good conditions of the rest parts(PSU, Mem....). How come ours are so easy to be OCed (with stable preformance)??? you have any ideas? or the articles I (more...)

yes, we already save S$300+ coz we got a 3700+(sandra's PR)I'm also curious about those articles... but I think reason lies in many aspects: 1. they got a low-class CPUs or they choose to use MB which is not good at OC 2. our information are out-dated, they post their results around May or April, that time K8T800Pro/Nforce250GB MB for 754 are not popular and are expensive. 3.later they succeeded but many of them didnt make it public 4. we are lucky enough :) I believe with sempron 3000+, the 754 A64 platform will become mainstream for AMD users, higher one is 939 at the end of 2005, or mid of 2006, we shall get a Dual Core K8 with 90nm for acceptable price, and bythen 64-bit platform is ready (OS, driver, application...) or we get K9 directly :D as Microsoft's DirectX plan, mid 2006 or early 2007 DX 10 will come out, with their new OS, longhorn. we change platform then :)

so Vlink 8x is the cause?I have an idea, let's put the nice blue head sink on SB from NB, and get a fan to activly cool the NB (there are 2 holes around NB for the fan) AGP 8x is directly link to memory, have anything to do with the Vlink? Vlink is to transform all system IOs' data from SB to NB, and According to VIA, the Vlink have a fix freq at 266Mhz. If fsb increase, Vlink should remain same otherwise ABit must do something wrong. Still no idea how it crush the agp. maybe we can suggest Abit to lock the Vlink speed. If fsb get higher, it doesnt have impact on system.