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作者:临江仙 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:5633) 发表:2007-08-16 11:24:34  楼主  关注此帖
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通货膨胀之忧: cpi +0.1%, core +0.2%
烫手山芋无人接手之忧: previously risky-assets were under-priced, but now no buyers at all! Not even a price can be set. What you can do is just watching the spread shoot up.
房价之忧: 美房价再滑1.5%, SUB-PRIME 阴影更严重
油价上涨之忧: 美库存减少, 能源资源成本上涨之担心益盛


现在的问题是全球交易基本没人在看基本面了,都心乱了. SUB-PRIME 高度敏感,听到就恐慌, 而显然还会有其他相关的坏消息浮出水面..

下面就等失业率数字看怎样了...

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作者:临江仙 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:5633) 发表:2007-08-16 11:43:01  2楼
第一条不算阿.Core inflation is in check. not big worry.关于risky assets under-pricing? what do you mean? I think they were overpricing, so not the world are dumping risky assets and fly to safer assets. housing down another 1.5% can i have the full news ? thanks!
恩,第一条不算, 抱歉看错了.
For risky-assets, I am saying in the past, before the sub-prime crisis, risky-assets were so much under-priced to a large extend, and now this wave of credit crunch is all about risky-assets re-pricing. However, due to the sudden liquidity dry-up, investors are generally panic and the BUYER market of risky-assets simply disappeared. Without a buyer market's existence, there is no way to re-price the risky-assets, what would happen is ppl can only play in quality asset market, coupled with regulatory or risk-averse concern, quality assets are oversold at cheap price to cash-in. But without the re-pricing of the risky-assets, the sell-down in quality assets is far from an end.

Traders, Investment bankers are taking long leaves for the market to settle down. Simply because there is little business for credit play - leveraged buy-out, high-yield, all these hot topics in the past utilizing leverage and credit are deadly quite, IPOs and new debt issuance are postponed....

For Housing, here is the Existing single home prices that fell 1.5%, confirming that housing is still falling and is not improving. This is taken from one institute's summary, no further details yet.
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作者:临江仙 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:5633) 发表:2007-08-16 11:43:59  3楼
通货膨胀: cpi +0.1%, core +0.2%已经是近八个月来最好的了. 老BEN的政策已经开始奏效. 烫手山芋无人接手之忧是重点, 问题就在这里. 全球几千上万亿美元的风险资产一夜之间突然没人信了, 几个月前, 只要有CASHFLOW的东西就可以用来抵押发行债卷, 有钱人欢欣鼓舞地把钱交给各类基金. 可现在都抢着要套现, 可那些基金手中的RISKY ASSETS都没人要, 怎么办呢? 卖股票吧. 再加上越来越多的银行也加入其中, 投资者的信心指数也就可想而知了. CASH IS THE KING NOW!
you are right. I was misled by the CPI. The key is the liquidity dry up and
force sell down of quality assets.
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作者:临江仙 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:5633) 发表:2007-08-16 11:47:00  4楼
subprime是underlying,真正杀手是derivatives whose underlying isbased on those subprime. 由于derivatives有高的leverage效果,所以就这么扩大的。由于国际化,资金流动自由,所以美国出问题,别的地方受影响。而相对资金比较封闭的地方受影响就少。
yep. Those derivatives are normally CDOs and CLOs,
according to one senior banker, these instruments can easily leverage the sub-prime underlying 7-20 times!

I would be more interested to find out how the mechanism works! If any of you have the details, kindly share :)
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作者:临江仙 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:5633) 发表:2007-08-16 11:59:36  5楼
er...kindly refer to details in CFA level 2 text books ...they are all there, isn't it ?:)
CDO & CLO itself doesnot give leverage, if I remember correctly?
I remember CDO is about multiple tranches of the pool of debt obligations being rated differently from high to low and the re-payment of interests/principle use waterfall method.

How does the leverage step in?
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