2007年新加坡全国个人赛参考消息
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作者:卷心菜 (等级:17 - 华新水桶,发帖:11914) 发表:2007-06-03 06:41:27  121楼
No of Boards with draw results This could be another way to study whether the number of rounds is enough. Out of 20 boards per rounds, the number of Boards with draw results as below : Round 1 : 2 Round 2 : 3 Round 3 : 5 Round 4 : - Round 5 : 5 Round 6 : 5 Round 7 : 7 So, it is increasing, .... any relationship with the number of rounds ?!
they are positive correlated.
随着轮次的增加,理论上对阵双方实力越来越接近,自然和棋会增多。
另外,战略和棋也会在后半段出现。

总结:轮次和和棋数是正比关系(positive correlated)and correlation is stastically significant.
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作者:火云邪神 (等级:4 - 马马虎虎,发帖:373) 发表:2007-06-03 10:46:29  122楼
Results of Round 7 and Pairing for Round 8Results of Round 7 陈茂然(5.5) 0.5:0.5 曹子航(4.5) 张友彬(4.5) 0.5:0.5 姚威和(4.5) 洪顺利(4.5) 0:1 范永康(4) 廖铭濠(4) 1:0 肖加龙(4) 许永坤(4) : 0.5:0.5 陈贤凯(4) 张胜祥(4) : 0:1 赵金山(4) Ranking of Round 8 1 陈茂然(6) 2 姚威和(5) 3 范永康(5) 4 曹子航(5) Above four promoted to Grade 2 and continue with 2 Rounds knock-out system 陈茂然 : 曹子航 姚威和 : 范永康 The other 36 players will continue with 2 more rounds of Swiss Pairing System : 赵金山(5) : 张友彬(5) 陈贤凯(4.5) : 廖铭濠(5) Kevin Ong(4.5) : Ang Puay Young(4.5) 许永坤(4.5) : 洪顺利(4.5) 肖加龙(4) : Sii Toh Ing(4) 张胜祥(4) : Chua Jun Jie(4) Teo Sim Hua(4) : Samuel Ng(4) ..........
Auntie 又跌倒了
听说她15回合就被弃马局杀了。真菜。
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作者:火云邪神 (等级:4 - 马马虎虎,发帖:373) 发表:2007-06-03 10:48:24  123楼
Auntie 又跌倒了听说她15回合就被弃马局杀了。真菜。
昨晚也下风跟无名棋手求和
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作者:marauder (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:97) 发表:2007-06-03 15:05:06  124楼
2007 System As compared to 2006 9-round system, this year, during the arbiter course, we noticed that SIXGA has considered 3 other alternatives before the selection of 2-round knock out system for the top 4. The other two alternatives were 3-round knock out system for the top 8 (in this case, no incentive for the remaining 32 players to continue with the last 3 rounds) and 2-round knock out system for the top 4 with 2 losers from 1st round (Round 8, this year) returning to play with the main body in the last round (Round 9 this year, a bit unfair for the two losers). As for the actual situation this year (40 players), after 4 rounds, only one with full 4 points, i.e. (add 50%) minimum of 6 rounds is enough for this year. As there are so many (6) of 5 points, mainly due to unexpected none with 5.5 points. In all, this year 9-round method is still a better system, my personal view only.
It is not surprising that 5 points will be enough for promotion
It has to be taken note that this is a major competition where the competition towards the end will be stiff, so that the occurances of drawn games increases. Everybody has become very careful as they know they cannot afford to lose. Furthermore, there is nobody with a clear advantage over the rest of the players. Even Maoran who led the group drew his last 2 games. Therefore, before the competition even started, it can actually be counted that there will be a few players with 5 points to be promoted.

In my opinion, I think that 7 rounds are still not enough. I have no complains about the 7+2 rounds system but why cant we add 2 more rounds to make it 9+2? In 2005 national competition, there are 11 rounds despite a turnout of only 44 players (inclusive of all the ranked players). In 2006, there were already many complains that there were only 9 rounds.

In a 7 round system, luck plays a much more important role that in a 9 round system. Cruelty of the system.

I still think the system needs to be reviewed and improved on.
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作者:胡耀宇 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:157) 发表:2007-06-03 15:19:53  125楼
Auntie 又跌倒了听说她15回合就被弃马局杀了。真菜。
福音!!!!还没有考驾照又想和特级大师下棋的朋友请注意
如果你想常和特级大师下棋,又想学开车,可以打电话97919842报名,机会不多,棋艺高超者还有折扣,回扣,,,,
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作者:胡耀宇 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:157) 发表:2007-06-03 15:26:23  126楼
张大师这种比赛是不认真下的
很多甲级棋手跟她下"彩"棋,都不那么容易赢,输赢差不多
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作者:胡耀宇 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:157) 发表:2007-06-03 15:33:06  127楼
福音!!!!还没有考驾照又想和特级大师下棋的朋友请注意如果你想常和特级大师下棋,又想学开车,可以打电话97919842报名,机会不多,棋艺高超者还有折扣,回扣,,,,
差不多大师赖汉顺,好手吴宗翰都出自她门下
赖汉顺和陈榆中跟她学车后,棋艺突飞猛进,成国手了
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-06-03 19:34:16  128楼
It is not surprising that 5 points will be enough for promotionIt has to be taken note that this is a major competition where the competition towards the end will be stiff, so that the occurances of drawn games increases. Everybody has become very careful as they know they cannot afford to lose. Furthermore, there is nobody with a clear advantage over the rest of the players. Even Maoran who led the group drew his last 2 games. Therefore, before the competition even started, it can actually be counted that there will be a few players with 5 points to be promoted. In my opinion, I think that 7 rounds are still not enough. I have no complains about the 7+2 rounds system but why cant we add 2 more rounds to make it 9+2? In 2005 national competition, there are 11 rounds despite a turnout of only 44 players (inclusive of all the ranked players). In 2006, there were already many complains that there were only 9 rounds. In a 7 round system, luck plays a much more important role that in a 9 round system. Cruelty of (more...)
Definitely, 9+2 will be better than 7+2 and ...

11+2 will be better than 9+2, ..... eventually, it is still a number and not every body is happy with it.

The consideration here is whether X+2 is better than previous years method.

Some early years, they played 13 rounds ?! But now a day, if you have too many rounds, may be not many can join.

So, those officers in-charge at SIXGA will have a hard time to deicde on the number ....... as for us as players, we just participate if we can affort the time for that year.
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-06-03 23:06:14  129楼
Pairing for Round 9, the last round, Monday, 4 Jun at 8 pm
1st and 2nd positions

陈茂然 : 姚威和

3rd and 4th positions

曹子航 : 范永康

5th to 8th positions

张友彬(6) : 许永坤(5.5)
廖铭濠(5.5) : Kevin Ong(5)
Ang Puay Young(5) : 肖加龙(5)
Chua Jun Jie(5) : 陈贤凯(5)
Samuel Ng(5) : 赵金山(5)
...........
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作者:卷心菜 (等级:17 - 华新水桶,发帖:11914) 发表:2007-06-04 00:21:21  130楼
差不多大师赖汉顺,好手吴宗翰都出自她门下赖汉顺和陈榆中跟她学车后,棋艺突飞猛进,成国手了
吴宗翰也跟auntie学车了?
他不是比auntie实力强么?
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作者:卷心菜 (等级:17 - 华新水桶,发帖:11914) 发表:2007-06-04 00:27:39  131楼
Pairing for Round 9, the last round, Monday, 4 Jun at 8 pm1st and 2nd positions 陈茂然 : 姚威和 3rd and 4th positions 曹子航 : 范永康 5th to 8th positions 张友彬(6) : 许永坤(5.5) 廖铭濠(5.5) : Kevin Ong(5) Ang Puay Young(5) : 肖加龙(5) Chua Jun Jie(5) : 陈贤凯(5) Samuel Ng(5) : 赵金山(5) ...........
范永康的一些资料-by Marauder
范永康, a player from Hong Kong, with a rating of 2281. In last year Hong Kong Chinese Chess Individual competition (group B), he was ranked 8th and was promoted to the Group A competition for the first time. In Hong Kong, I think he is a 三段 player from the results he achieved in the individual competition. 八段 is their Masters and 九段 is their GM.

He and 王振中 led their team 天天快活人 to Champion in Hong Kong Team Competition in 2005. The team members consist of 陈志文 (Hong Kong Master),郑剑文,周世杰 and 范永康.

He had a draw game against Hong Kong GM 赵汝权 (2659)

In this year team competition, they sent in 2 teams and got 2nd and 4th respectively. 范永康 is in the team that got 4th. In both pictures, 范 is the one that is receiving the trophy.

In this ongoing National Chinese Chess Competition 2007 (Singapore), he has used the same opening for all 7 rounds so far (I think he is giving a handicap of about 二先). He has not shown his understanding for all the popular openings yet. For those who are going to play group A competition, just take note of this person, if he did indeed join the group A competition.



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作者:卷心菜 (等级:17 - 华新水桶,发帖:11914) 发表:2007-06-04 00:30:22  132楼
范永康的一些资料-by Marauder范永康, a player from Hong Kong, with a rating of 2281. In last year Hong Kong Chinese Chess Individual competition (group B), he was ranked 8th and was promoted to the Group A competition for the first time. In Hong Kong, I think he is a 三段 player from the results he achieved in the individual competition. 八段 is their Masters and 九段 is their GM. He and 王振中 led their team 天天快活人 to Champion in Hong Kong Team Competition in 2005. The team members consist of 陈志文 (Hong Kong Master),郑剑文,周世杰 and 范永康. He had a draw game against Hong Kong GM 赵汝权 (2659) In this year team competition, they sent in 2 teams and got 2nd and 4th respectively. 范永康 is in the team that got 4th. In both pictures, 范 is the one that is receiving the trophy. In this ongoing National Chinese Chess Competition 2007 (Singapore), he has used the same opening for all 7 rounds so far (I think he is giving a handicap of about 二先). He has not shown his understanding for all the popu (more...)
梁永兴和本人对范永康的一些评论
梁永兴对范永康的一些评论:
Judging from his performace in national B, his playing strength is around 2200 SG rating. It is not sure how much of real power he suppressed.

本人对范永康的一些评论:
I think Fan need time to analyze SG players' strength and weakness. After 1 to 2 yrs, he should be able to play at around 2250 SG rating.
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作者:卷心菜 (等级:17 - 华新水桶,发帖:11914) 发表:2007-06-04 00:32:22  133楼
王檄胡耀宇遭逆转 富士通杯八强战中国全军覆没so sad!好郁闷啊!!!!!我随便下都能赢的棋又输给李昌镐,跟他的对局胜负变5:6了.害得中国又失意富士通,真是富士痛啊
看了,怎一个惨字了得。胡耀宇那盘前面大优的棋,周鹤洋是半目输的吧。
这个韩国的朴的残棋(官子)真厉害!
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作者:几度 (等级:12 - 登峰造极,发帖:3128) 发表:2007-06-04 02:13:29  134楼
梁永兴和本人对范永康的一些评论梁永兴对范永康的一些评论: Judging from his performace in national B, his playing strength is around 2200 SG rating. It is not sure how much of real power he suppressed. 本人对范永康的一些评论: I think Fan need time to analyze SG players' strength and weakness. After 1 to 2 yrs, he should be able to play at around 2250 SG rating.
我的评论
7场下完,范永康进入前四。他和我有一句对话,可作参考:“A组有A组的下法,B组有B组的下法”。我觉得他还没有真正显示他的实力,原因在于还不习惯新加坡的下法。听说他在B组下偏门布局,可能是要避开流行变化,要求中残决胜负的表现。布局或许是他的弱点,但中残将是他的强项。究竟如何,等A组比赛时将有分晓。我还没跟他下过,也没能真正看到他的棋,以上只是猜想,不过希望有八成正确吧。
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作者:marauder (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:97) 发表:2007-06-04 02:47:05  135楼
Definitely, 9+2 will be better than 7+2 and ... 11+2 will be better than 9+2, ..... eventually, it is still a number and not every body is happy with it. The consideration here is whether X+2 is better than previous years method. Some early years, they played 13 rounds ?! But now a day, if you have too many rounds, may be not many can join. So, those officers in-charge at SIXGA will have a hard time to deicde on the number ....... as for us as players, we just participate if we can affort the time for that year.
the X + 2 system
Well, if people can take time out for a 7+2 competition, it is not a great difference to play 2 extra nights.

Furthermore, I think SIXGA has not account fully why they use the X+2 system.

The 7+2 system indeed brings about more excitment as the spectators will see the semi-final and finals as a more fiercely fought competition than in a swiss system. However, SIXGA is trying to prevent people from watching the games and does it not defeat the purpose of a X + 2 system? Furthermore, there are no big chess boards to broadcast the games nor are there any efforts to put the games online so that the chess fans can follow the news. If that is the case, why not make it 9 rounds like last year's competition? It is more accurate in gauging the strengths of all the players.

Another question to consider is that is the 7+2 system raising the qualities of the games? Well, I do not think there is much differences as compared to previous years. In fact, it might be worse. Those that did not make it to top 4 are not taking their last 2 games seriously and are actually just playing for fun and waiting to get the deposit back. The monetary awards for 5th - 8th are not enough to inspire the players that did not qualify to play seriously, from what was gathered on the ground.

Though the X+2 system may offer some advantages, but the main question here is that is it appropriate in the Singapore context or is it more suited for international competition where there are more publicity and more chess fans following the news with world-class players in the competition?

I would seriously think that SIXGA should ask the players and chess fans to fill up a feedback form and see what could be improved on.
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作者:marauder (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:97) 发表:2007-06-04 02:54:48  136楼
我的评论7场下完,范永康进入前四。他和我有一句对话,可作参考:“A组有A组的下法,B组有B组的下法”。我觉得他还没有真正显示他的实力,原因在于还不习惯新加坡的下法。听说他在B组下偏门布局,可能是要避开流行变化,要求中残决胜负的表现。布局或许是他的弱点,但中残将是他的强项。究竟如何,等A组比赛时将有分晓。我还没跟他下过,也没能真正看到他的棋,以上只是猜想,不过希望有八成正确吧。
2 games on the web by Fan Yong Kang
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2004-2005 Hong Kong Team competition Fan Yong Kang (red) draws GM Zhao Nu Quan (black)

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2003-2004 Hong Kong Team competition 张文昌 (red) draws Fan Yong Kang (black)
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作者:marauder (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:97) 发表:2007-06-04 03:21:31  137楼 评分:
我的评论7场下完,范永康进入前四。他和我有一句对话,可作参考:“A组有A组的下法,B组有B组的下法”。我觉得他还没有真正显示他的实力,原因在于还不习惯新加坡的下法。听说他在B组下偏门布局,可能是要避开流行变化,要求中残决胜负的表现。布局或许是他的弱点,但中残将是他的强项。究竟如何,等A组比赛时将有分晓。我还没跟他下过,也没能真正看到他的棋,以上只是猜想,不过希望有八成正确吧。
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2004-2005 Hong Kong Team competition Fan Yong Kang (red) draws GM Zhao Nu Quan (black)

2003-2004 Hong Kong Team competition 张文昌 (red) draws Fan Yong Kang (black)
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作者:网络蚂蚁 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:192) 发表:2007-06-04 08:26:33  138楼
Pairing for Round 9, the last round, Monday, 4 Jun at 8 pm1st and 2nd positions 陈茂然 : 姚威和 3rd and 4th positions 曹子航 : 范永康 5th to 8th positions 张友彬(6) : 许永坤(5.5) 廖铭濠(5.5) : Kevin Ong(5) Ang Puay Young(5) : 肖加龙(5) Chua Jun Jie(5) : 陈贤凯(5) Samuel Ng(5) : 赵金山(5) ...........
Are we allowed to view the Matches when playing ?
I thought xiang Zhong not allow no player to view while they ar playing ?
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作者:网络蚂蚁 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:192) 发表:2007-06-04 08:28:52  139楼
吴宗翰也跟auntie学车了?他不是比auntie实力强么?
That is part one of the story ...
He was not that strong during that time ....But he very keen on chess ....so make him faster...also other player like lim yao shen also help him alot
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-06-04 08:39:25  140楼
the X + 2 systemWell, if people can take time out for a 7+2 competition, it is not a great difference to play 2 extra nights. Furthermore, I think SIXGA has not account fully why they use the X+2 system. The 7+2 system indeed brings about more excitment as the spectators will see the semi-final and finals as a more fiercely fought competition than in a swiss system. However, SIXGA is trying to prevent people from watching the games and does it not defeat the purpose of a X + 2 system? Furthermore, there are no big chess boards to broadcast the games nor are there any efforts to put the games online so that the chess fans can follow the news. If that is the case, why not make it 9 rounds like last year's competition? It is more accurate in gauging the strengths of all the players. Another question to consider is that is the 7+2 system raising the qualities of the games? Well, I do not think there is much differences as compared to previous years. In fact, it might be worse. Those that did not make it to top (more...)
Any suggestion or feedback to sixga suggestion box or info@sixga.org as .....
I do not know anyone from sixga access to the postings here.
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