my first posting after 棋人生 ......
with immediate effect, I will join discussions here within the scope of【齐】心合力 【启】动 象【棋】 only and not to participate in other areas.[齐启棋 (7-23 18:36, Long long ago)]
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【齐】心合力 【启】动 象【棋】 ......
In end Jun 2008, when 悟入棋途 considering to have new name, I mentioned that the concerns should be on the ways to inject new ideas after every few years ..
几度 in early July 2008 talked about …..” ….. 卷心菜私下跟我感慨，说很多论坛都是从无到有，从小到大，人数从少到多，然后就开始骂战，最后就消亡了。大家一开始都是抱着热忱进来的，除了喜欢损人利己的，会有谁希望最后这样子收场呢？……”.
Personally, I hope 悟入棋途 is not following the trend.
Recently, I notice that a few new forumers are joining this forum with the purposes of 损人不利己, talking the negative parts of Singapore Xiangqi without evidents. This is why I support the 实名制, let people know your identity.
For quite many net names here, we value their different views even without their identities, but for a few of them (损人不利己), they think they can just talk nonsense without identities to be known.
In mid Aug 2006, I gave three written suggestions to SIXGA as below :
“1 考虑多级个人晋级(包括例如每三年至少参加一次比赛的规例)以取代目前的两级制度，对新加坡中小学及我国棋坛的象棋活动可能有健康的发展。
2 培养六种象棋人材的实施能力范围包括例如棋手的纪律与道德修养。
3 有关裁判员方面的训练。
中国象棋大师黄少龙教授的建议(Chess & Cards World, July 2004, Page 17，象棋事业要全面发展，象棋教育必须培养运动员（棋手），教练员，裁判员，理论工作者，宣传工作者和组织工作者)”
棋手的纪律与道德修养 always in my mind, for 悟入棋途 forumers, what is our 纪律与道德修养?
As compared to the net name of 棋人生, 齐启棋 should have a better meaning, i.e.【齐】心合力 【启】动 象【棋】
but if I ended up with some hot discussions as before, then I am wasting my energy on unproductive matters.
For the above reasons, I have decided to ignore all the negative views in this forum and only concentrate on the positive parts, this is the only way that I still have a feel that I am part of 悟入棋途.
Thank you.
【齐】心合力 【启】动 象【棋】[齐启棋 (7-24 8:55, Long long ago)]
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(引用 齐启棋:【齐】心合力 【启】动 象【棋】 ......
In end Jun 2008, when 悟入棋途 considering to have new name, I mentioned that the concerns...)i think that it is unfair to say that...Your claim <For quite many net names here, we value their different views even without their identities, but for a few of them (损人不利己), they think they can just talk nonsense without identities to be known.>
I think that there is always IP Address and there fore forumers MUST think before they act. If some forumers dare to say, they dare to face the consequences. So i think its unfair to say that they are talking nonsense as usually forumers would be very careful in what they say and make sure that what they say have reasons and support.
To only take part in positive and ignore negative views can end up in biasness in your future views, because you only consider whats all the good points and ignore bad points. A good conclusion is always based on factors of both good and bad side. And i think that as a committee members, i believe you know quite alot about SIXGA as compared to us. So it would be great if you can share your views in all areas. To benefit us forumers.[水棋 (7-24 9:41, Long long ago)]
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(引用 水棋:i think that it is unfair to say that...Your claim
I think that there is always IP Address and there fore forumers MUST think ...)谢绝对号入座 and I am not in SIXGA EXCO.......as one of the forumers here, I should have my right to read only positive parts here.
By the way, it is not SIXGA duties to send someone here to do the reading, if you have any suggestions, please write to SIXGA directly as I did. [齐启棋 (7-24 9:51, Long long ago)]
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(引用 齐启棋:【齐】心合力 【启】动 象【棋】 ......
In end Jun 2008, when 悟入棋途 considering to have new name, I mentioned that the concerns...)Regarding not using real names in forum...Your claim <This is why I support the 实名制, let people know your identity.>
I think that there are purposes behind why people do not use real names in forum regardless of whether what purpose they serve in a forum, both negative and positive.
Firstly, lets say for example, a person who speaks the truth for the sake for improvement for all. We must understand that everyone have different views and opinions about a certain claim. Some are opened minded, some are closed minded and these are the people who are not willing to take in facts and ideas and whats worse is that these are the people who may get into violence and things. Who knows what they will do to the guy outside?
So even if someone is here for the right purpose, it would be still safer for the forumer to remain identity hidden.
If you were to notice, usually those who has their identity known do not really say much in this forum. I think maybe they are also worried about whatever may happen to them if someone else who just can't understand their logic and reason no matter how well and reasonable they express their views out. It can be rather dangerous to have someone who hate you and aims to do something to you in the dark. Right?
So in conclusion, i think that it is to protect people. but of course there are people who take advantage of it and say nonsense out there. But i also believe it is possible for ip check.
Thanks[水棋 (7-24 9:58, Long long ago)]
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(引用 齐启棋:谢绝对号入座 and I am not in SIXGA EXCO.......as one of the forumers here, I should have my right to read only positive parts he...)hmm i think you have misunderstood what i meantHi 齐启棋, i did not mean to say that it is a duty of the committee members or any other forumes here to MUST see both views. It is totally up to individual of course, no one can force you.
But i was just suggesting that given your experience, it would be better that you can take part in both views as it would benefit the forumers here if you are willing to share. Of course again it is not your duty to do so.
Thanks for suggesting that we can always write to SIXGA if we have opinions[水棋 (7-24 10:01, Long long ago)]
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(引用 水棋:Regarding not using real names in forum...Your claim I think that there are purposes behind why people do not use real names i...)I support and not suggest, 【齐】心合力 【启】动 象【棋】.[齐启棋 (7-24 10:07, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]7楼
(引用 水棋:hmm i think you have misunderstood what i meantHi 齐启棋, i did not mean to say that it is a duty of the committee members or an...)My experience in 悟入棋途 these recent few months told me that .....I am wasting my energy on unproductive matters (on a few discussions).
Sorry, even I feel that you are quite open to the discussion but I have to stop here.
【齐】心合力 【启】动 象【棋】. [齐启棋 (7-24 10:14, Long long ago)]
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Example 1 of 【齐】心合力 【启】动 象【棋】 ..........
Example 1 is Boon Lay C.C.
do you know for a xiangqi club or SIXGA, how much they need to spend in a year ?
In Bishan Xiangqi Club, we spent more than $32,000 in 6 years, i.e. average more than $5,000 per year.
In SIXGA 2008 AGM, I notice that SIXGA spent close to $29,000 in FY 2007.
In 2008 Singapore Open, total of cash prizes is more than $8,000, total expenses should be more than $10,000. Where to get all these funds ? If Boon Lay C.C. is willing to fund 3 years of Singapore Open, as xiangqi lovers, we should show our appreciations, to both SIXGA and Boon Lay C.C. for working out the arrangements, by say joining the competition or give support in whatever way we could, instead of talking on the bad points only, negative feedback with proposed solutions should be a better approach.
How to solve the funding problem after 3 years ???
hope more can contribute to provide more examples here so that we know Singapore Xiangqi has a bright future. [齐启棋 (7-24 10:42, Long long ago)]
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Example 2 of 【齐】心合力 【启】动 象【棋】 ..........
Example 2 is SIXGA.
after a written suggestion by one ordinary member on 有关裁判员方面的训练 in Aug 2006 and feedback from 甘榜格南座谈会 in Oct 2006.
SIXGA proceeded to arrange a training course for 裁判员 from Jan 2007 to May 2007.
SIXGA has shown a example to value the feedback.[齐启棋 (7-24 10:56, Long long ago)]
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(引用 齐启棋:【齐】心合力 【启】动 象【棋】 ...... In end Jun 2008, when 悟入棋途 considering to have new name, I mentioned that the concerns...)黄少龙是不是南开大学研究跟电脑对弈的那位[太阳黑子 (7-24 11:41, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]11楼
(引用 太阳黑子:黄少龙是不是南开大学研究跟电脑对弈的那位)should be, some more information for you to verify .....
he is 70 years old this year.
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黄少龙先生1938年生，8岁学棋，14岁拜陈松顺为师，1956年获广州市中学生象棋赛冠军，代表广州队参加了北京、上海、天津、沈阳、西安、广州、武汉、重庆“八大城市青年学生象棋比赛”，获团体第三名。1956年考入南开大学物理系。此后一边学习，一边下棋，有战胜过北京名宿张德魁、东北高手王嘉良的纪录。1977年，在全国象棋比赛中获得了第三名，后来因此被授予象棋大师称号。既是象棋大师，又是南开大学教授，这在棋坛实不多见，在中国象棋界更是绝无仅有。下棋、教书之余，黄少龙先生开设象棋课，办棋社，在纹枰方面笔耕不缀，有多种棋书问世发行……
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新闻一 访天津象棋名家黄少龙（劳动午报，2006 年10月）
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记者：您既是象棋大师，又是大学教授，把这两个令人羡慕的头衔集于一身的人实属凤毛麟角。象棋大师和大学教授，这两个头衔您更看重哪一个？
黄少龙：我是业余棋手，获得的是国内第一批象棋大师头衔，自然是很高兴的。从我国社会的实际情况来看，我更看中教授头衔，我一生有两次机会成为职业棋手，我都拒绝了。我认为绝大多数象棋爱好者只能当业余棋手，应该多宣传一个人如何做好本职工作，又能下好棋的事例。
记者：在象棋方面，您今后有何打算？
黄少龙：近年主要撰写象棋著作，有时适当参加象棋活动，我想70岁之后，以养老为主，空闲时研究象棋文化，即象棋与易经、象棋与人生的关系。
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漫谈象棋人才
黄少龙（中国象棋大师、南开大学教授）
http://bbs.huasing.org/wap/xbbs.php?B=123_10915484[齐启棋 (7-24 12:13, Long long ago)]
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(引用 齐启棋:should be, some more information for you to verify ..... he is 70 years old this year. 碧山民众俱乐部象棋会五周年会庆特辑 Pag...)天津市07年象棋冠军商思源也是南开大学教授不知几度能下得过商吗?[太阳黑子 (7-24 12:52, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]13楼
Example 3 of 【齐】心合力 【启】动 象【棋】 ..........
Example 3 is 陈茂然.
He likes to join the competitions but he knows that SIXGA needs his service as 赛务主任.
He will spend more times in various events in the coming years. [齐启棋 (7-24 14:48, Long long ago)]
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(引用 齐启棋:Example 1 of 【齐】心合力 【启】动 象【棋】 ..........
Example 1 is Boon Lay C.C.
do you know for a xiangqi club or SIXGA, how ...)要不我们到街上募捐你拿个小桶,我拿个小桶,他拿个小桶
或者干脆冠军多拿名少拿利[太阳黑子 (7-24 15:47, Long long ago)]
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(引用 太阳黑子:要不我们到街上募捐你拿个小桶,我拿个小桶,他拿个小桶 或者干脆冠军多拿名少拿利)can consider to suggest to SIXGA 优胜者多拿名 (new grading system) 少拿利 ......e.g. if total expenses is within $5,000, Bishan Xiangqi Club may wish to propose to Bishan C.C. too. [齐启棋 (7-24 17:55, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]16楼
(引用 齐启棋:【齐】心合力 【启】动 象【棋】 ...... In end Jun 2008, when 悟入棋途 considering to have new name, I mentioned that the concerns...)什么叫作"启动象棋"?一般只说启动电脑[太阳黑子 (7-24 19:27, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]17楼
(引用 太阳黑子:什么叫作"启动象棋"?一般只说启动电脑)just pick from a set of terms with the word "qi" .......
and choose the one with the meaning closer to my wish.
http://bbs.huasing.org/wap/xbbs.php?B=123_10994085[齐启棋 (7-24 19:39, Long long ago)]
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(引用 太阳黑子:什么叫作"启动象棋"?一般只说启动电脑)应该说是推动吧，它是个活动。齐心协力 推动象棋！！！[多啦A梦 (7-24 20:45, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]19楼
(引用 多啦A梦:应该说是推动吧，它是个活动。齐心协力 推动象棋！！！ )how about to change 多啦A梦=>齐推棋 and 太阳黑子=>齐动棋 ?[齐启棋 (7-24 20:51, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]20楼