Mind Sports by PA -- Xiangqi (20 Dec, 25 Dec 2007) and 12 Jan 2008
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-12 16:21:43  21楼
I heard that two school teams registered this morning ....
so, they are getting teachers to play the (>=40 yrs old) boards ??!!
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-13 10:37:16  22楼
Mind Sports by PA -- Xiangqi (20 Dec, 25 Dec 2007) and 12 Jan 2008(Please wait for official news by PA) Team Event for 16 teams -- similar to Lee Bee Wah's Cup (5 + 2 rounds) by Nee Soon South C.C. Team Composition -- 1 leader, 4 players and 2 reserve (Player for Board 1 is 40 yrs old or above) 20 Dec 2007 (Public Holiday, 11 am to 6 pm) -- 3 rounds 25 Dec 2007 (Public Holiday, 11 am to 9 pm) -- 4 rounds 12 Jan 2008 -- Prize Giving with 16 selected players (40 yrs old and above) to play on 8 boards.
The Pairing System to be used .......

Since there are a few xiangqi clubs sending two teams each, if the confirmed number of teams is 10 or 12, may be the method used in 2005 Lion City Cup Group B could be cosndiered : --

To divide all 10 or 12 teams into two groups, each group to have 2 or 3 seeded teams depending on the players in the team, teams from the same club to be balloted into different groups.

Phase 1 -- round robin system to be used for each group, total of 5 rounds

Phase 2 --

1st to 4th postions :

the top 2 of each group to continue 2 more rounds to deicde on 1st to 4th positions.

5th to 8th positions :

the 3rd and 4th placings of each group to continue 2 more rounds to deicde on 5th to 8th positions.

9th to 12th positions :

the 5th and 6th placings of each group to continue 2 more rounds to deicde on 9th to 12th positions.

If there are 13 or more teams, then the method to be used could be ......

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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-14 02:26:44  23楼
The Pairing System to be used ....... Since there are a few xiangqi clubs sending two teams each, if the confirmed number of teams is 10 or 12, may be the method used in 2005 Lion City Cup Group B could be cosndiered : -- To divide all 10 or 12 teams into two groups, each group to have 2 or 3 seeded teams depending on the players in the team, teams from the same club to be balloted into different groups. Phase 1 -- round robin system to be used for each group, total of 5 rounds Phase 2 -- 1st to 4th postions : the top 2 of each group to continue 2 more rounds to deicde on 1st to 4th positions. 5th to 8th positions : the 3rd and 4th placings of each group to continue 2 more rounds to deicde on 5th to 8th positions. 9th to 12th positions : the 5th and 6th placings of each group to continue 2 more rounds to deicde on 9th to 12th positions. If there are 13 or more teams, then the method to be used could be ......
how many teams now ??!!
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-14 08:34:43  24楼
You are not 王英再, you are not 可爱, very disappointed .....
as you try to provide misleading information.

As 网友 in 悟入棋途, we should try to help to build it up and you are not .... very disappointed !!!
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-14 08:44:20  25楼
If so many teams, swiss pairing system is good enough....
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-14 09:11:00  26楼
The Pairing System to be used ....... Since there are a few xiangqi clubs sending two teams each, if the confirmed number of teams is 10 or 12, may be the method used in 2005 Lion City Cup Group B could be cosndiered : -- To divide all 10 or 12 teams into two groups, each group to have 2 or 3 seeded teams depending on the players in the team, teams from the same club to be balloted into different groups. Phase 1 -- round robin system to be used for each group, total of 5 rounds Phase 2 -- 1st to 4th postions : the top 2 of each group to continue 2 more rounds to deicde on 1st to 4th positions. 5th to 8th positions : the 3rd and 4th placings of each group to continue 2 more rounds to deicde on 5th to 8th positions. 9th to 12th positions : the 5th and 6th placings of each group to continue 2 more rounds to deicde on 9th to 12th positions. If there are 13 or more teams, then the method to be used could be ......
very likely 10 to 12 teams and method of 2005 Lion City Cup Group B ...

1 义顺南

2 Chong Pang

3 哥南亚逸

4 文礼 A

5 文礼 B

6 北斗

7 波那维斯达 A

8 波那维斯达 B

9 白沙东

10 碧山

11 ...

12 ...

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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-16 11:51:31  27楼
Mind Sports by PA -- Xiangqi (20 Dec, 25 Dec 2007) and 12 Jan 2008(Please wait for official news by PA) Team Event for 16 teams -- similar to Lee Bee Wah's Cup (5 + 2 rounds) by Nee Soon South C.C. Team Composition -- 1 leader, 4 players and 2 reserve (Player for Board 1 is 40 yrs old or above) 20 Dec 2007 (Public Holiday, 11 am to 6 pm) -- 3 rounds 25 Dec 2007 (Public Holiday, 11 am to 9 pm) -- 4 rounds 12 Jan 2008 -- Prize Giving with 16 selected players (40 yrs old and above) to play on 8 boards.
List of 12 teams (confirmed) as below ......


1 文礼 A

2 文礼 B

3 波那维斯达 A

4 波那维斯达 B

5 华中 A

6 华中 B

7 义顺南 C.C.

8 Chong Pang RC Zone 2

9 北斗

10 哥南亚逸乐龄中心

11 白沙东 C.C.

12 碧山 C.C.




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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-17 00:02:40  28楼
Mind Sports by PA -- Xiangqi (20 Dec, 25 Dec 2007) and 12 Jan 2008(Please wait for official news by PA) Team Event for 16 teams -- similar to Lee Bee Wah's Cup (5 + 2 rounds) by Nee Soon South C.C. Team Composition -- 1 leader, 4 players and 2 reserve (Player for Board 1 is 40 yrs old or above) 20 Dec 2007 (Public Holiday, 11 am to 6 pm) -- 3 rounds 25 Dec 2007 (Public Holiday, 11 am to 9 pm) -- 4 rounds 12 Jan 2008 -- Prize Giving with 16 selected players (40 yrs old and above) to play on 8 boards.
The Method and Pairing System is confirmed .......

Since there are 12 teams, the method of 2005 Lion City Cup Group B will be used for this coming mind sport xiangqi team event :


Group A

北斗
文礼 A
华中 B
白沙东 C.C.
波那维斯达 B
哥南亚逸乐龄中心


Group B

文礼 B
波那维斯达 A
华中 A
义顺南 C.C.
Chong Pang RC Zone 2
碧山 C.C.


To divide all 12 teams into two groups.

Phase 1 -- round robin system to be used for each group, total of 5 rounds.


After Phase 1, to rank each group into :

Group A -- A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 A6

Group B -- B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B6


Phase 2 is using knock-out system with :

Round 6 at Nee Soon South C.C. :

A1 vs B2

A2 vs B1

winners from above to play for 1st and 2nd placings in Round 7, the other two teams to play for 3rd and 4th placings in Round 7.

**These 4 teams to play the Round 7 at Suntec City on 12 Jan 2008 at 6 pm.**

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The following 8 teams to play both Rounds 6 & 7 at Nee Soon South C.C.


A3 vs B4

A4 vs B3


winners from above to play for 5th and 6th placings in Round 7, the other two teams to play for 7th and 8th placings in Round 7.



A5 vs B6

A6 vs B5

winners from above to play for 9th and 10th placings in Round 7, the other two teams to play for 11th and 12th placings in Round 7.

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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-17 06:31:46  29楼
Are the A teams surely the better team? Later all the stronger players go to B..
The seeded teams are decided with reference to the list of players .......
I believe that they are not allowed to change team now ......
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-17 06:37:55  30楼
Are the A teams surely the better team? Later all the stronger players go to B..
The names with A or B just to indicate those sending two teams .....
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-17 12:04:00  31楼
The Method and Pairing System is confirmed ....... Since there are 12 teams, the method of 2005 Lion City Cup Group B will be used for this coming mind sport xiangqi team event : Group A 北斗 文礼 A 华中 B 白沙东 C.C. 波那维斯达 B 哥南亚逸乐龄中心 Group B 文礼 B 波那维斯达 A 华中 A 义顺南 C.C. Chong Pang RC Zone 2 碧山 C.C. To divide all 12 teams into two groups. Phase 1 -- round robin system to be used for each group, total of 5 rounds. After Phase 1, to rank each group into : Group A -- A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 A6 Group B -- B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B6 Phase 2 is using knock-out system with : Round 6 at Nee Soon South C.C. : A1 vs B2 A2 vs B1 winners from above to play for 1st and 2nd placings in Round 7, the other two teams to play for 3rd and 4th placings in Round 7. **These 4 teams to play the Round 7 at Suntec City on 12 Jan 2008 at 6 pm.** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following 8 teams to play both Rounds 6 & 7 at Nee S (more...)
The 4 seeded teams (indicated by **) ......

Group A

**北斗
**文礼 A
华中 B
白沙东 C.C.
波那维斯达 B
哥南亚逸乐龄中心


Group B

文礼 B
**波那维斯达 A
华中 A
**义顺南 C.C.
Chong Pang RC Zone 2
碧山 C.C.
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-18 03:13:25  32楼
Mind Sports by PA -- Xiangqi (20 Dec, 25 Dec 2007) and 12 Jan 2008(Please wait for official news by PA) Team Event for 16 teams -- similar to Lee Bee Wah's Cup (5 + 2 rounds) by Nee Soon South C.C. Team Composition -- 1 leader, 4 players and 2 reserve (Player for Board 1 is 40 yrs old or above) 20 Dec 2007 (Public Holiday, 11 am to 6 pm) -- 3 rounds 25 Dec 2007 (Public Holiday, 11 am to 9 pm) -- 4 rounds 12 Jan 2008 -- Prize Giving with 16 selected players (40 yrs old and above) to play on 8 boards.
Two primary school teams wanted to register after closing date but rejected ....
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-18 21:59:16  33楼
谁说的?为了指出所谓的种子队,一定要在两组里面各挑两队,似乎不对吧?棋手名单我没有(说来惭愧,连赛制我也是从华新得知的),但如果就事论事,文礼、北斗、波那维斯达和白沙东都是强队,义顺南这次亦强亦弱。如果要说前四名的争夺,两组各挑三队机会最高的,比较容易。如果一定要说两队,那就近于博彩了。 其实这个比赛比分发生意外的可能性也也相当高,因为连续不停的比赛很容易影响棋手的发挥。候补的强弱,很有关系。这个比赛不限级,因此原本甲级不多的队比较吃亏。但结果好像是并没有太多队派全甲级,所以象碧山这样的队,(我猜想)属于甲乙混合,而且候补实力不逊于正选,实际上似弱不弱。种子棋队,说的是某些棋手的名气,还是全队临场的表现呢?
I believe that the 4 seeded teams are selected by officials from ....
Nee Soon South and SIXGA based on the name lists followed by assigning two seeded teams each to both groups.

Yes, good to see whether all 4 seeded teams are in suntec. :)
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-18 22:34:18  34楼
谁说的?为了指出所谓的种子队,一定要在两组里面各挑两队,似乎不对吧?棋手名单我没有(说来惭愧,连赛制我也是从华新得知的),但如果就事论事,文礼、北斗、波那维斯达和白沙东都是强队,义顺南这次亦强亦弱。如果要说前四名的争夺,两组各挑三队机会最高的,比较容易。如果一定要说两队,那就近于博彩了。 其实这个比赛比分发生意外的可能性也也相当高,因为连续不停的比赛很容易影响棋手的发挥。候补的强弱,很有关系。这个比赛不限级,因此原本甲级不多的队比较吃亏。但结果好像是并没有太多队派全甲级,所以象碧山这样的队,(我猜想)属于甲乙混合,而且候补实力不逊于正选,实际上似弱不弱。种子棋队,说的是某些棋手的名气,还是全队临场的表现呢?
unofficial ---

if to pick three teams per group, I will pick :

Group A

**北斗
**文礼 A
华中 B
**白沙东 C.C.
波那维斯达 B
哥南亚逸乐龄中心


Group B

**文礼 B
**波那维斯达 A
华中 A
**义顺南 C.C.
Chong Pang RC Zone 2
碧山 C.C.


and I do not have the name lists too. (I heard that 白沙东 C.C. with 莫文耀 and 陈茂然. 义顺南 C.C. with 胡海宇 and 邱冠杰)

As for Bishan, likely we only could plan to have one or two boards for graded players and 2 or 3 boards for non-graded players. Same number if by age, i.e. to have one or two boards for 40 yrs old or above and 2 or 3 boards for 20 yrs old or below.

We try to aim for a good number for the final position, i.e. 8th. so as to have triple 8 lah... hehe.

(We have both 8th positions at Sep 2007 Albert Centre Team Event and Nov 2007 Pasir Ris East C.C. Team Event although the actual position was 7th for Nov 2007 event.)
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-19 04:46:47  35楼
不代表我的意见。种子队的选取如果是为了赛务,让赛务处决定吧。选出的种子队,不代表我的意见。
Beidou team has very strong members, all are graded players .....

heard from 黎德义 when I attended a wedding dinner together with him .....

40 yrs old or above

黎德义
范永康

below 40 yrs old

康德荣
吴宗翰
姚威和
黄荣岳

Do not know lists of Boon Lay and Buona Vista ....
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-19 04:56:16  36楼
The Method and Pairing System is confirmed ....... Since there are 12 teams, the method of 2005 Lion City Cup Group B will be used for this coming mind sport xiangqi team event : Group A 北斗 文礼 A 华中 B 白沙东 C.C. 波那维斯达 B 哥南亚逸乐龄中心 Group B 文礼 B 波那维斯达 A 华中 A 义顺南 C.C. Chong Pang RC Zone 2 碧山 C.C. To divide all 12 teams into two groups. Phase 1 -- round robin system to be used for each group, total of 5 rounds. After Phase 1, to rank each group into : Group A -- A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 A6 Group B -- B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B6 Phase 2 is using knock-out system with : Round 6 at Nee Soon South C.C. : A1 vs B2 A2 vs B1 winners from above to play for 1st and 2nd placings in Round 7, the other two teams to play for 3rd and 4th placings in Round 7. **These 4 teams to play the Round 7 at Suntec City on 12 Jan 2008 at 6 pm.** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following 8 teams to play both Rounds 6 & 7 at Nee S (more...)
首届“来群杯” will be using the same method for the Top 4 too ....
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-19 05:47:48  37楼
Beidou team has very strong members, all are graded players ..... heard from 黎德义 when I attended a wedding dinner together with him ..... 40 yrs old or above 黎德义 范永康 below 40 yrs old 康德荣 吴宗翰 姚威和 黄荣岳 Do not know lists of Boon Lay and Buona Vista ....
Queenstown not in due to .....

I noticed that Queentown joined Sep 2007 Albert Centre Team Event and Nov 2007 Pasir Ris East C.C. Team Event but not this open event.

In fact, all xiangqi clubs should try to attend this coming team event if they have no problem in forming team(s) as most of xiangqi clubs are under PA and logically should give support to this PA's HQ event and Nee Soon South C.C. could be seen as 承办 only. (same as sudoku for Bishan C.C.)

Before Nov 2007 Pasir Ris East C.C. Team Event, 棋一生 mentioned that女皇镇有象棋国际大师郑祥福坐镇守关,辅以今年B组冠军姚威和,乙级棋士黄荣岳,再加上从义顺跳槽的熊国伟,实力鼎盛。

But this time 郑祥福 in Hua Chong team(?), 姚威和 and 黄荣岳 in Beidou team, could this be one of the problems of dual memberships ???!!! ended up Queentown not able to form a team this time ???!!!

Personally, I consider this development is not healthy as I noticed that Queenstown joined 2006 and 2007 Albert Centre Team Events and also sent a few members for the Lantern Xiangqi in Sep 2007 and performed well, but one month later (from 18 Nov 2007 Pasir Ris East C.C. 10-member Team Event) and not able to form a 4-member team for the mind sport......

This could be another issue or problem for new or existing xiangqi clubs to look into ......
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-19 05:58:14  38楼
unofficial --- if to pick three teams per group, I will pick : Group A **北斗 **文礼 A 华中 B **白沙东 C.C. 波那维斯达 B 哥南亚逸乐龄中心 Group B **文礼 B **波那维斯达 A 华中 A **义顺南 C.C. Chong Pang RC Zone 2 碧山 C.C. and I do not have the name lists too. (I heard that 白沙东 C.C. with 莫文耀 and 陈茂然. 义顺南 C.C. with 胡海宇 and 邱冠杰) As for Bishan, likely we only could plan to have one or two boards for graded players and 2 or 3 boards for non-graded players. Same number if by age, i.e. to have one or two boards for 40 yrs old or above and 2 or 3 boards for 20 yrs old or below. We try to aim for a good number for the final position, i.e. 8th. so as to have triple 8 lah... hehe. (We have both 8th positions at Sep 2007 Albert Centre Team Event and Nov 2007 Pasir Ris East C.C. Team Event although the actual position was 7th for Nov 2007 event.)
heard that Nee Soon South 梁华平 and 梁剑华 not free this time ....
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-19 06:11:37  39楼
The Method and Pairing System is confirmed ....... Since there are 12 teams, the method of 2005 Lion City Cup Group B will be used for this coming mind sport xiangqi team event : Group A 北斗 文礼 A 华中 B 白沙东 C.C. 波那维斯达 B 哥南亚逸乐龄中心 Group B 文礼 B 波那维斯达 A 华中 A 义顺南 C.C. Chong Pang RC Zone 2 碧山 C.C. To divide all 12 teams into two groups. Phase 1 -- round robin system to be used for each group, total of 5 rounds. After Phase 1, to rank each group into : Group A -- A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 A6 Group B -- B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B6 Phase 2 is using knock-out system with : Round 6 at Nee Soon South C.C. : A1 vs B2 A2 vs B1 winners from above to play for 1st and 2nd placings in Round 7, the other two teams to play for 3rd and 4th placings in Round 7. **These 4 teams to play the Round 7 at Suntec City on 12 Jan 2008 at 6 pm.** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following 8 teams to play both Rounds 6 & 7 at Nee S (more...)
Bishan Team .....

one day before the event, still planning ....


40 yrs old or above (one or two boards)

陈沐铼 (Grade 1) (at least not free for 20 Dec)
郑海光 (Grade 2) (at least not free for 25 Dec)
洪泉发 (Grade 2)
沈连发
符策权
梅毅能 (at least not free for 25 Dec)

20 yrs old or below (two or three boards)

梅丁捷 (Grade 2)
陈一龙
杨荣桦 (may be not free due to work)
洪福阳 (16 yrs old)
陈茗芳 (16 yrs old)
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-19 07:39:55  40楼
Mind Sports by PA -- Xiangqi (20 Dec, 25 Dec 2007) and 12 Jan 2008(Please wait for official news by PA) Team Event for 16 teams -- similar to Lee Bee Wah's Cup (5 + 2 rounds) by Nee Soon South C.C. Team Composition -- 1 leader, 4 players and 2 reserve (Player for Board 1 is 40 yrs old or above) 20 Dec 2007 (Public Holiday, 11 am to 6 pm) -- 3 rounds 25 Dec 2007 (Public Holiday, 11 am to 9 pm) -- 4 rounds 12 Jan 2008 -- Prize Giving with 16 selected players (40 yrs old and above) to play on 8 boards.
Latest News : 现金奖 is changed to 奖品 for all mind sports ...
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