anyway, with the current 12 teams, I believe the organiser should be happy with the number as the two public holidays including X'mas day are not the good period for the competition as comapred to early Jan 2008.

queenstown as if they do not have their own 4-member for mind sport, why go and get so many outsiders to form team for Albert Centre and Pasir Ris East C.C. team events and ended up back to square one after the events ????????

黄荣岳 joined Bishan Cup Central Singapore Individual event in Feb 2006 under Queenstown team, could be he joins Beidou since then .....

As for 姚威和, I notice that he is under Beidou all the times, so when other told me that he is a member of Queenstown before Pasir Ris East C.C. team event, I do not believe too.

As mentioned in my previous few postings, I have no objection to dual membership but the relevant clubs should be more careful in their own development planning and do not let this issue to affect their progress.

The only solution so far I know is to build up your own team even if you are at the bottom of a few team events initially......getting good players all over the place is not a solution.

"Maintaining a club isn't easy, so we need not expect one to participate in all tournaments."

Due to maintaining a club isn't easy, this is why for dual membership, I always say the player and the clubs concerned should have the same understanding when sending players for external competition, i.e. to represent which team !!! so as not to have any misunderstanding for the clubs concerned.

but

firstly, all should pay attention to the closing date.

(Two primary school teams wanted to register after closing date but rejected.)

secondly, I believe the organiser also have no plan to amend Rule No. 4.

(one team withdrawn early)

thirdly, it is always the case for the organiser to have a spare team so that they are able to have even number of teams for the competition.

Last but not least, there are a lot of issues for the organiser to tackle but nowaday, I notice that quite a number of players do not appreciate the effort put in by the organiser, what they want just simply to have more chances to play chess, to have better prizes and to complaint. This is also one of the reasons for less xiangqi activities organised nowaday.

From my own experience in Bishan, I am happy that members just simply join the internal competition without knowing the prizes.

We are not ready to organise external team competition with so many incidences happened in the last few years for competitions organised by other organisations.

We are trying with the 第3届碧山杯全国象棋个人赛曁第1届碧山杯全国选区象棋团体赛 currently for the team competition of non graded players to be held on 1 & 2 Mar 2008 for the 2008华族文化节. If we could handle it well, we may include graded players in future.

By the way, anyone notice the closing date is 30 Jan 2008 for 第1届碧山杯全国选区象棋团体赛 ?

after the Kolam Ayer 3rd Anniversary team event held on 8 Sep 2007 when two young players from Boon Lay representing Feiying in the friendly match.

This time, the issue was surfaced again due to two players representing Queenstown and Beidou.

I do not see any problem if all the above players and clubs concerned have the same understanding of the arrangement although personally I think it will have impact in the longer term.


As for Bishan, we use the following guide :


一人多队, our current way to handle ....(发贴时间：2007-09-10 12:21)

http://bbs.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_10946133


One more example, for the 10-year old player from Pasir Ris East C.C. joined Bishan as member on 18 Nov 2007 (during the Pasir Ris East C.C. Team Event), I told his father very clearly that Bishan is considering his son under Pasir Ris East C.C. and will not send his son for external team competition unless we agree with Pasir Ris East C.C. Team on the new arrangement.

So far, we do not encounter any problem with the dual membership.

so that only Top 4 to play the Round 7 ( 1 vs 2, 3 vs 4) at Suntec with others play the Round 7 at Nee Soon South.

Anyway, unlikely for me to play any game in this event as we are forming the team with 5 young members and 2 senior members....

one 70 yrs old,
one close to 50 yrs old,
three NS boys and
two 16 yrs old.

for this competition, I have discussed with the under 21 yrs old group and agreed to keep records of the games if possible although no rule for the need of record keeping.

I am happy that they are trying to keep the records, results are not so important to us for this mind sport, especially after Day 1.

Due to holidays season, we have registered total of 12 members for this competition with the approval from the organiser, e.g. the two members (the 70 yrs old and the one close to 50 yrs old) could not join us on Day 2, 25 Dec 2007 due to overseas tour and work.

We will have up to 10 members for the remaining 4 rounds on Day 2 for the 9th to 12th placings.

in general, all 7 played well, we should review their game records later.


We plan to start this review process in 2008 ...., say after 选区象棋团体赛.

Group A

1 (3,19) **北斗
2 (2,17) **文礼 A
3 (2,14) 白沙东 C.C.
4 (1,10) 波那维斯达 B
5 (.5,8) 华中 B
6 (.5,4) 哥南亚逸乐龄中心

Group B

1 (2.5,18) **波那维斯达 A
2 (2.5,15) **义顺南 C.C.
3 (2,17) 华中 A
4 (2,14) 文礼 B
5 (0,5) Chong Pang RC Zone 2
6 (0,3) 碧山 C.C.

After 3 连负 in Day 1, Bishan has 4 连胜 in Day 2 but too late, ranked No. 9 .....

from the above records,

1 Boon Lay Player -- 11 points
2 Nee Soon South -- 10 points
Nee Soon South -- 10 points
4 Buona Vista -- 9 points
Boon Lay -- 9 points

1 叶献风 Boon Lay -- 11 points
2 胡海宇 Nee Soon South -- 10 points
刘易文 Nee Soon South -- 10 points
4 朱永吉 Buona Vista -- 9 points
廖铭濠 Boon Lay -- 9 points

Beidou has no top scorer but has a balanced team.