11月份私宅销量再创新低,一泻如注,熊市已经到来!!!
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作者:flyover2010 (等级:4 - 马马虎虎,发帖:2085) 发表:2012-12-24 21:38:41  81楼
感觉好像是在鸡同鸭讲,本来懒得再答了,算了如果悟性高的话慢慢会理解的给楼主最后一个解答,你要知道楼价何时会下跌,可以给你答案,'在暴涨之后',要知原因吗?暴涨之后政府一定会拿出严厉的调控政策,到那时你就等着接盘吧。不过也有可能,那时的楼价会远远高于现在,这就要看你的运气了。至于高档楼盘,有时它的上涨爆发力是很强的,就像是股票中的突然放量上涨,如果海外买盘因为某些原因蜂拥进场,你说你会抢得过他们吗?多加10%的房产税也好印花税也好其实只是心里因素,实际影响可能很快就会消化,只要是政府的政策稳定,外国买家会再次进场。
本来ls是要说什么情况下房价会下跌的
但是通篇下来我还只是对暴涨最有印象。
真是神人。
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作者:flyover2010 (等级:4 - 马马虎虎,发帖:2085) 发表:2012-12-25 08:11:35  82楼
呵呵, flyover2010 应该是想买房一族, 愿望是好的可惜理想和现实间是有差距的。 不是喊几句口号, 房价就能下来的。 一泻如注, 这词整的挺大。 哈哈
屁股决定脑袋
有房和没有房的看到同样的信息同样的情况,但是会有不同的解读。
自己相信也好,想浑水摸鱼也好,反正嘴巴里讲出来的总是对自己有利的。
这就是现实。
还有啊,我说的一泄如注指的是私宅销量,不是指价格哦。价格据说还杠在水平线上。
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作者:tdy (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:1313) 发表:2012-12-25 11:32:41  83楼
凡事有个大势小势实在是很难预测,因为琐碎的因素实在太多太杂了。 但是大势相对而言,是可以预期的。 想当年,我准备加入中国A股的时候是4500点,后来最信任的上投摩根刚好出了老鼠仓,对中国股市彻底失去信心。 当后来指数突破5000点,6000点的时候,我只是感觉好笑。 当后来指数跌破6000,5000,4000,3000,2000点的时候,我还是觉得好笑。 为什么?骗子和垃圾场能产生什么价值?
楼主如果一心想发财,又对A股有一定的认识,就给你个Lobang
你所谓的大势向上就买杠杆基金,反之大势向下就买生物医药。
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作者:flyover2010 (等级:4 - 马马虎虎,发帖:2085) 发表:2012-12-25 15:08:20  84楼
楼主建议你去看看云南白药贵州茅台双鹭药业等在6000点和现在的价位看了之后,你会知道什么才是价值投资。价值投资和大盘走势也就是你说的大势是没有丝毫关系的。
港报:军委禁酒令 茅台股价挫
不知道这个有没有指标性的效果。

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作者:树冷 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2707) 发表:2012-12-26 21:19:58  85楼
本年度最搞笑的吵架贴
俺看到king 先生的回复,以及随之而来的腥风血雨之后,便秘解除了。
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作者:king (等级:13 - 举世无双,发帖:8340) 发表:2012-12-26 22:33:27  86楼
本年度最搞笑的吵架贴俺看到king 先生的回复,以及随之而来的腥风血雨之后,便秘解除了。
呵呵, 此话怎讲?现在中文不好, 有点看不懂了。哈哈
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作者:SkyBlue042 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1937) 发表:2012-12-27 00:15:05  87楼
本来ls是要说什么情况下房价会下跌的但是通篇下来我还只是对暴涨最有印象。 真是神人。
US group incurs hefty loss on luxury condo investment
http://www.straitstimes.com/archive/tuesday/premium/money/story/us-group-incurs-hefty-loss-luxury-condo-investment-20121225

Wachovia's $55m loss on Grange Road project highlights weak market

Published on Dec 25, 2012

By Dennis Chan, Deputy Money Editor


UNITED States financial services group Wachovia has sold its investment in City Developments' (CDL's) freehold Grange Road project at a hefty loss.

The sale, which is likely to cost Wachovia a loss of $55 million, underscores the continuing weakness in the high-end residential property market, despite hopeful talk of a recovery next year.

It is also a sign that Wachovia does not believe it can recoup its investment in Cliveden at Grange in the short to mid-term, after making a big bet on the property at the height of the high-end rally five years ago.

Wachovia teamed up with CDL in November 2007 to acquire 44 Cliveden homes for $432.4 million. Under the deal, which worked out to an average price of $3,750 per sq ft (psf), Wachovia's real estate arm, Wachovia Development, took a 60 per cent stake in the joint-venture company, Grange 100.

Grange 100 is the vehicle which owns the 44 units - a mix of three- and four-bedroom apartments and penthouses in two of the four towers at Cliveden.

Based on its equity share, a back of the envelope calculation puts Wachovia's investment at $259.4 million. In selling its 60 per cent stake in Grange 100 to CDL for $204.5 million, the average price works out to $2,956 psf.

That is a drop of 21.2 per cent from the price it paid in 2007.

Analysts reckon the size of this sale at such a steep price drop will have an adverse impact on the Urban Redevelopment Authority's (URA's) private home price index, particularly the sub-index for the central core region.

Wachovia's actual loss may vary as the $204.5 million price tag includes advances it had extended to Grange 100.

CDL said in a statement that, in acquiring Wachovia's stake, it has taken a medium- to long- term view of Cliveden and has confidence in the project.

"The consideration was arrived at on a willing buyer, willing seller basis, taking into account the net asset value attributable to the Wachovia shares based on, inter alia, the financial statements of Grange 100 and outstanding shareholder loans," it said.

A search with the Accounting and Corporate Regulatory Authority shows that Grange 100 has accumulated losses of $121.8 million as of 2011, since it was set up in 2008.

The last time Cliveden saw any transaction, based on caveats lodged, was in April 2008, when a 2,842 sq ft unit was sold for $11.1 million, or $3,914 psf.

The 110-unit Cliveden was completed last year. URA data shows that the condominium is 80 per cent sold, at prices ranging from $3,265 psf to $4,313 psf.
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作者:tdy (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:1313) 发表:2012-12-27 08:56:26  88楼
US group incurs hefty loss on luxury condo investmenthttp://www.straitstimes.com/archive/tuesday/premium/money/story/us-group-incurs-hefty-loss-luxury-condo-investment-20121225 Wachovia's $55m loss on Grange Road project highlights weak market Published on Dec 25, 2012 By Dennis Chan, Deputy Money Editor UNITED States financial services group Wachovia has sold its investment in City Developments' (CDL's) freehold Grange Road project at a hefty loss. The sale, which is likely to cost Wachovia a loss of $55 million, underscores the continuing weakness in the high-end residential property market, despite hopeful talk of a recovery next year. It is also a sign that Wachovia does not believe it can recoup its investment in Cliveden at Grange in the short to mid-term, after making a big bet on the property at the height of the high-end rally five years ago. Wachovia teamed up with CDL in November 2007 to acquire 44 Cliveden homes for $432.4 million. Under the deal, which worked out to an average price of $3 (more...)
LS拿个个案能说明什么呢?
平心而论,如果以在本地投资赚和赔的比率来说是什么结果,明眼人一看就清楚了。
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作者:今天注册 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:75) 发表:2012-12-27 09:48:52  89楼
趋势也是个案的累计
什么东西都没有只赚不赔的, 也没有什么都只涨不跌的.

离熊市也许还远, 但不要掉以轻心.
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