http://bbs.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_10967032



网页的问题可以考虑先实干起来

作者：卷心菜

发贴时间：2007-11-15 12:58

after

2007 义顺南第1届李美花杯象棋团体邀请赛
2007 新马象总杯

and before

2007 中国象甲联赛
2007 茶阳杯小学象棋团体赛


with more than 2,000 贴 todate.

Now, it is around the time all yearly activities will repeat again starting with the same few activities ---

2008 义顺南第2届李美花杯象棋团体邀请赛
2008 中国象甲联赛
2008 新马象总杯
2008 茶阳杯小学象棋团体赛

as mentioned, I will pay attention to those new initiatives but not the repeating events.

象总网页 could be considered as new initiative if there are plans to make major changes .....

if there are positive developments in ......

(1) 象总网页

(2) 新加坡10年象棋活动记录

(3) 2008 10 月 20-26日 象总承办 ：第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛(新加坡)

heard that 棋一生 invited 悟入棋途网友 卷心菜, 一刀n断, 几度, 齐启棋.. to attend with the presence of .....

棋一生 will brief me after the meeting.

the website of Asian Xiangqi Federation will be used for the publicity of

2008 10 月 20-26日 象总承办 ：第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛(新加坡)

as in the past 亚洲象棋赛

http://www.asianxiangqi.org/HomeChn.htm

After the 象总网页 discussion meeting on 13 Apr 2008, only about 6 months left before 第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛, not easy to have major changes to SIXGA website in time for the event.

So, the next target is before SIXGA 75th Anniversary Celebration around end 2009 .....

棋一生, 卷心菜, 一刀n断 and 几度 may wish to read before the discussion meeting .....

heard that marauder not able to attend too due to conducting xiangqi course during the same time at SIXGA ......, I try to provide some past information which were provided to SIXGA previously, 棋一生, 卷心菜, 一刀n断 and 几度 may wish to include these if useful when discuss with Secretary General of SIXGA regarding the future design of 象总网页. Sorry for not able to attend the discussion due to other prior appointment.

Happy discussion. :)

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齐启棋 2008-03-11 19:00

Singapore Xiangqi 10-Year Records

We may use a moving target approach, i.e.

If we can get it up by Oct 2008 (in time for 第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛), then the 10 years cover Oct 1998 to Sep 2008, otherwise we may aim for Oct 1999 to Sep 2009 before SIXGA’s 75th Anniversary Celebration.

We should at least cover

团体赛

个人赛

棋会介绍

棋手介绍

Any other inputs ?

Does anyone wish to contribute ?

齐启棋 2008-03-11 11:46

过去(棋人生), 现在(齐启棋), 未来(碧山 or 碧山东) .....

this is on the way for me to work on the other two 2008 New Year wishes and hand over properly before leaving Bishan ...

-- 2008 New Year Wish 1 ………. Competition Area = Exam Hall (done in 2008 Bishan Cup)

-- 2008 New Year Wish 2

wish 全国选区象棋团体赛 could perform better and better in 2008, 2010, 2012 ....and more C.C.s to form Xiangqi clubs over the next 10 years ....

(4 clubs tried to form 选区团体 in 2008 Bishan Cup)

-- 2008 New Year Wish 3

I hope to move from the front (as chairman) to the back (as one of the EXCO members if my service is needed) within the next one and an half years before moving out of Bishan.

-- the current Bishan EXCO wishes to contribute to Singapore Xiangqi and help to compile the Singapore Xiangqi 10-year records if there are positive development over the next one month in this matter, otherwise we will drop this matter from our list.

新加坡10年 (1998年10月至2008年9月)象棋活动记录

棋人生 2008-02-11 18:56

Nee Soon South C.C. has invited the 8 teams to attend a 联谊座谈会 .....

on 4 Mar 2008, just to share some views ....

http://bbs.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_10993074

碧山民众俱乐部象棋会会长洪泉发先生的一些感言 – 4 Mar 2008

碧山民众俱乐部象棋会于2002年6月27日正式成立至今，五年多来国内较主要/大型的团体赛只有7项，义顺南民众俱乐部是三年来国内3项主要团体赛的唯一主办者。希望在未来能见到义顺南民众俱乐部继续主办更多类似的活动，更希望个别有条件的民众俱乐部或象棋组织，在象棋总会的牵引下，能跟进主办这样的活动，这不但能推动新加坡棋运，并促进各棋会间的联系，同时也减轻义顺南民众俱乐部的负担。


碧山民众俱乐部象棋会

2002年6月27日成立至今国内较主要/大型的团体赛

2002 2003 2004 2004 2004 2005 2005 2007 2007
加基武吉 武吉甘柏 裕华 甘榜格南 甘榜格南 义顺南 义顺南 义顺南 义顺南
第二届 第9届 第10届 第一届 第一届 第二届 第二届 第一届 Xiangqi
周亨增杯 团体联赛 团体联赛 狮城杯A 狮城杯B 狮城杯A 狮城杯B 李美花杯 Mind Sport
总奖金 $3,000 $6,300 $5,500 $4,850 $2,150 $4,850 $2,150 $5,100 $2,900
赛期(天数) 3 9 7 5 5 4 4 3 2 + 1**
队数 8 9 8 8 14 8 10 14 12
台数 6 6 6 4 4 4 4 4 4
每方时限 90分钟 亚洲棋规 亚洲棋规 亚洲棋规 90分钟 亚洲棋规 90分钟 60分钟 60分钟
轮数 7 9 7 7 7 7 7 7 7
冠军 武吉甘柏 加基武吉 北斗 波那维斯达 阿裕尼 加基武吉 义顺南 北斗 北斗
奖 金 $1,000 $1,500 $1,500 $2,000 $800 $2,000 $600 $1,200 $1,000
亚军 加基武吉 北斗 加基武吉 飞鹰 芽笼西 飞鹰 飞鹰 义顺南 文礼
季军 义顺南 长河 波那维斯达 加基武吉 淡滨尼东 义顺南 淡滨尼东 波那维斯达 义顺南
殿军 波那维斯达 武吉甘柏 桂林 义顺南 加基武吉 加基武吉 加基武吉 北斗 波那维斯达
第 5 名 甘榜格南 文礼 文礼 加基武吉 甘榜格南 波那维斯达 飞鹰 白沙东/飞鹰 文礼
第 6 名 长河 波那维斯达 国大 芽笼西 飞鹰 白沙东 甘榜格南 义顺南 华中
第 7 名 碧山 芽笼西 裕华 碧山 甘榜格南 碧山 甘榜格南 文礼 波那维斯达
第 8 名 实龙崗北 国大 南大 白沙东 义顺南 义飞联队 哥南亚逸 哥南亚逸 白沙东/飞鹰
第 9 名 裕华 飞鹰 碧山 文礼 碧山
第 10 名 碧山 白沙东 甘榜格南 哥南亚逸
第 11 名 联赛由于赛期较长， 白沙东 飞鹰/白沙东 华中
第 12 名 我会未能组队参加。 白沙东 淡滨尼东 忠邦
第 13 名 武吉班让 碧山
第 14 名 中正 碧山

** -- All teams on 20 & 25 Dec 2007 except the top four teams to have one more day on 12 Jan 2008.



棋人生 2008-01-21 08:39

新加坡象棋、十年风雨路.

After the Bishan Cup 2008, we are considering to help in compiling the Singapore Xiangqi Activities and Clubs in the past 10 years, 1998 to 2008.

We hope most of the xiangqi clubs if not all could have join effort to work on it.

As indicated in the past postings, I have collected the SIXGA newsletters No. 1 to No. 11, 1998 to 2007 and some beidou publications .....

棋人生 2008-01-22 18:17

from this record, so many teams not in PA HQ's Mind Sport due to .....

Dec holidays, Rename of team, no more around, any other reason etc :

武吉甘柏
加基武吉
甘榜格南
长河
实龙崗北
芽笼西
国大
裕华
桂林
南大
阿裕尼
淡滨尼东
武吉班让
中正

棋人生 2008-01-22 10:31

2002年6月27日至今国内较主要/大型的团体赛, ......

need to add on those before 27 Jun 2002 .....

棋人生 2008-01-22 19:48

Why 10 years ? not 15 years ?

As mentioned previously, SIXGA publications for 40th, 50th and 60th Anniversaries had quite a good records of past activities. The missing parts could be from the 60th Anniversary Celebration till todate.

Personally, I suggest to divide the major work into three smaller tasks :

A) 4 years records from the 60th Anniversary Celebration till Oct 1998 including The Singapore Open 早报杯 1998. (someones to work on it)

B) 10 years records from Nov 1998 to mid Oct 2008 as a present for all Asian Countries coming to attend

象总承办 ：第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛(新加坡) (10月24 - 31日)

C) one year record from mid Oct 2008 till SIXGA 75th Anniversary Celebration at end 2009 (someones to work on it)

D) someones to work on the combination of Parts (A), (B) and (C) to have a 15-Year records or even to include all the previous anniversary publications to become a 75-Year records.

I am willing to join the team to work on Part (B).



棋人生 2008-01-20 10:18

洪会长借这机会纠正在甘榜格南座谈会的【妥协】应是协调 .... (第二次 棋会联系会议)

At SIXGA Thank You Lunch on 30 Dec 2007, 象总林关浩会长 mentioned to continue with the 棋会联系会议 in 2008.

In 24 July 2007 第二次象棋棋会联系会议, I mentioned that we had total of at least 15 areas highlighted from the following three gatherings :

27 July 2006 第一次象棋棋会联系会议 -- 3 points

8 Oct 2006 甘榜格南“象棋座谈会” -- 7 points

7 Jan 2007 碧山象棋会主催棋会代表圆桌讨论会 -- 5 points


The subsequent 象棋棋会联系会议 if any should monitor the progress and/or development in these 15 areas to ensure we have fruitful meetings in future.


at 2006甘榜格南“象棋座谈会”,

other than "洪泉发(碧山) 渴望诸如商业杯赛，选区赛等的主办，他建议象总可串演中介的角色，与各棋会妥协【协调】，使到棋赛赛程更能均匀地分配，全年中几乎每个月都有赛项，就不会出现有多项赛事集中在某几个月，而其他月份则空档着；杨平德试问象总是否有考虑过要开办裁判班？"

I also mentioned that in the long run, SIXGA should target at the about 100 C.C. all over Singapore for the Singapore Xiangqi Development, e.g. to help 2 C.C.s to form xiangqi team each year so that in 5 years time, we will have 10 more C.C.s having xiangqi teams.

The Bishan Cup 选区团体赛 is to help to inject this thinking into the players so that more and more will help their own C.C.s (at where they stay) to form xiangqi teams or clubs in future.


棋人生 2007-11-28 13:12

should be just a recording of facts over the 15 years, .....

not easy to get good writers and also with good memories to 介绍 those events over 15 years and to write articles as 张辽2004狮城杯大作.

As mentioned, we need more people to come forward on their own ....


卷心菜 2007-11-28 12:39

每年个人赛的前几名,有级棋士总列表(截至2007年),俱乐部介绍,主要棋赛介绍

当然团体赛和狮城杯是最重分量,要着重介绍.

张辽已经写过一篇2004狮城杯大作,曾经在黑龙江棋艺杂志上发表,可以参考.

棋人生 2007-11-28 06:11

One of the three Secretary Generals of SIXGA since 1994 .....

should be the logical choice to perform the duties of chief Editor for this task ....


棋人生 2007-11-27 15:51

SIXGA's books for 40th, 50th and 60th Anniversary Celebrations ......

in 1974,1984 and 1994 have covered records until 1994.

Singapore 15 Years Xiangqi Records, 1995 to 2009

棋人生 2007-11-27 15:48

Singapore 15 years Xiangqi Records, 1995 to 2009

For the compilation of the records, extra efforts from various xiangqi clubs and xiangqi individuals are required, to make sure all are moving towards the same direction, I plan to suggest at least to cover :

Records of Singapore Xiangqi Activities over 1995 to 2009 or early (the main task)

In addition, if we have enough articles or related information from the various xiangqi clubs, then we could also include :

Records of Singapore Xiangqi Clubs over 1995 to 2009, or early (the minor task)

We should not aim for too much other information otherwise the task will become too big and not able to handle in time.

We will need to consider : number of pages, number of copies, fund allocated, resources available and number of members in the editorial board etc.

May be all 悟入棋途网友 could post your views etc here for consolidation, volunteers to join the editorial board are most welcome !!!

To ensure a good job, I also wish to suggest not to rush for Oct 2008 Asian Xiangqi Games in Singapore but to aim for end 2009 SIXGA 75th Anniversary, if the records could be compiled before Oct 2008 in times for Asian Xiangqi Federation 30th Anniversary Celebration in Singapore, it will be considered as unexpected present from Singapore.


卷心菜 2007-11-22 12:49

继续讨论实干构建新版Sixga网页

小生不才在上一个帖子里列了4个步骤
……….

我可以参与第三项步骤。

那么现在第一第二个步骤谁来做？
第四步骤有无深爱象棋的本地电脑好的象棋手负责配合？


棋人生 2007-11-22 11:50

Xiangqi Clubs in Singapore ......

A friend passed a xiangqi records book to me last night(shown below). This is a compilation of 1974 China Individuals at Chengdu by Macpherson Community Centre Xiangqi Research Club. Just from this we could derive that Singapore Xiangqi was very active in 1970s as just a C.C. xiangqi club could compile such information at that time. If you have a chance to read the SIXGA's books for 40th, 50th and 60th Anniversary Celebrations in 1974,1984 and 1994, you will have much more information regarding Singapore Xiangqi before 1994. At this point, I feel very disappointed that when I started to pay attention to Singapore Xiangqi at end 1998, I could not know much about the activity level, e.g. what are the xiangqi activities in the coming 12 months? what were the activities in the pass three years ? When 白贵忠先生 and 毛瑞发先生 (设计象总会徽)离开人间 in 2005 and 2006 respectively (if I could recall, the passed away of 白贵忠先生 in Mar 2005 was highlighted in 2005 SIXGA's Newsletter No. 9 but I did not read about 设计象总会徽 的 毛瑞发先生 passed away in Jun 2006 in the Newsletter No. 10 published in Oct 2006 or in any other way to inform SIXGA's members), we are going to lost more and more xiangqi information over times if we do not start to do something to capture Singapore Xiangqi Information, say since 1994. May be we should think about to compile Xiangqi Activities and Clubs in Singapore since, say 1994 as 10 years 团体联赛 started in 1995, last two seasons were at 2003年(9th season)武吉甘柏与2004年(10th season)裕华, if we could have such information by Nov 2008, then this could be a record to show to all Asian countries about Singapore Xiangqi Activities and Clubs in the past, say 15 years. To do a good job, at least all the past and present Secretary Generals of SIXGA since 1994 and some other important committee members should treat this as their responsibilities to keep records for Singapore Xiangqi in their capacities in (our National level organisation) SIXGA's EXCO, either past or present.






卷心菜 2007-11-15 12:58

网页的问题可以考虑先实干起来

关键是资料收集，网页可以先向马来西亚和香港主页看齐。汕头棋院网页每日更新，吾所不及也。
资料收集是实干，网页制作是实干，异于在理事会上发言讨论。

现在大家那么多那么多人关心此事，我相信我们一定可以做好。
可讨论步骤
1.与现任sixga官网网管陈团生先生讨论让更多的人参与网络建设，而陈团生先生可以作为总指挥把关
2.收集资料－－纸上的或者电脑里的
3.新sixga网页制作，新网页制作后交由陈团生先生把关，然后放上服务器。
4.招收一名电脑好的青年象棋手负责配合大赛前发布消息，大赛后定期更新。

我可以参与第三项 3.新sixga网页制作，新网页制作后交由陈团生先生把关，然后放上服务器。


22 Jun 2007

Lists of 2003 to 2006

2003”第10届“联合早报杯”全国象棋锦标赛
公开 A 组

冠　军：　林耀森
亚　军：　黄俊铭
季　军：　苏琛富
殿　军：　张　勋
第五名：　巫宇斌
第六名：　郑祥福
第七名：　黄毅鸿
第八名：　沈荣春

公开 B 组

冠　军：　罗炳篆
亚　军：　杨平德
季　军：　洪腓利
殿　军：　林成泰
第五名：　张友彬
第六名：　陈俊华
第七名：　曹子航
第八名：　林诗来


2004最终名次:
A组:
第一:赖汉顺(13分)
第二:黄俊铭(13分)
第三:张勋(13分)
第四:林金星(12分)

B组:
第一:陈愉中(15分)
第二:黄吉贤(14分)
第三:王世良(14分)
第四:曾庆丰(13分)
第五:陈茂然(13分)
第六:曹子航(13分)
第七:张心欢(12分)
第八:颜隽红(12分)

2005年新加坡全国个人赛最终排名！！！
括号内为总积分。第1名升为大师，2到8名升为甲级，9到20名升为乙级。


1 黄俊铭 Huang Jun Min (19)
2 康德龙 Kang De Rong (18)
3 莫文耀 Mo Wen Yao (15)
4 赖汉顺 Lai Han Shun (15)
5 林耀森 Lin Yao Sheng (15)
6 郭家铭 Guo Jia Min (14)
7 倪福良 Ni Fu Liang (14)
8 邱冠杰 Qiu Guan Jie (14)
9 李国华 Li Guo Hua (14)
10 许重荣 Xu Chong Rong (14)
11 洪安豪 Hong An Hao (13)
12 沈再兴 Shen Zai Xing (13)
13 黄荣岳 Huang Rong Yue Eugene (13)
14 洪天瑞 Hong Tian Rui (13)
15 姚捷方 Yao Jie Fang (12)
16 王英再 Wang Ying Zai (12)
17 梅丁捷 Mei Ding Jie (12)
18 洪泉发 Hong Quan Fa (12)
19 柳国斌 Lew Guo Bin (12)
20 潘满意 Pan Man Yi (12)

National Open Championship 2006
Final Standings

第1名升为大师，2到8名升为甲级，9到20名升为乙级。

Place Name Score M-Buch. Progr.
1 赖汉顺 Lai Han Soon 7 47.5 35.5
2 黄俊铭 Ng Jun Ming 7 46.5 34.5
3 康德荣 Kng Ter Yong 6.5 46.5 35.5
4 杨高正 Yeo Gau Jeng 6.5 46.0 36.5
5 邱冠杰 Khoo Guan Jie 6.5 38.0 29.0
6 姚捷方 Yeo Jie Fang 6 49.0 35.0
7 刘郁兴 Lew York Hin 6 47.0 33.0
8 林耀森 Lum Yew Sum 6 46.5 33.0
9 梁文杰 Leong Mun Kit 6 46.5 31.0
10 卢国龙 Law Kok Leong 6 43.0 32.5
11 郑木兴 Tay Bok Heng 6 38.5 26.5
12 莫文耀 Mok Mun Yew 5.5 42.5 28.5
13 刘剑慧 Low Hui Hui 5.5 41.5 28.5
14 黄俊阳 Ng Jun Yang 5.5 41.0 26.0
15 陈赞丰 Tan Chan Hong 5.5 38.0 23.0
16 黄培森 Wee Pei Sen 5.5 35.5 25.5
17 潘满意 Pan ManYi 5 43.5 27.0
18 倪福良 Nga Hock Leong 5 43.0 28.0
19 陈福全 Chan Fook Chuen 5 42.0 29.0
20 谢长君 Chia Siang Koon 5 39.0 25.0

形势紧迫，不容乐观。

齐启棋在上面一贴中总结了好多以前的资料，十分有用，应在开会前予以打印出来。
受邀请参加4.13会议的棋友并非就是象总网页小组的成员。我在2007年11月7日力荐高手marauder柳国斌 (http://v15.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_10964781)，相信柳，吕，王可能是最佳小组成员人选

我自己只能做最大努力帮忙，目前手头上的事情要忙到7月。一刀n断可出很多好点子，但无法参与网页制作，几度兄的星期六星期天也基本全部排满。形势紧迫，不容乐观。
很多东西，在网上先讨论起来。

yes, I told 棋一生 previously that I could attend 1 or 2 discussion meetings but I have no 能力 to help in the design of 象总网页.

As mentioned in my separate note that not easy to have major changes to SIXGA website in time for the 第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛 event as only about 6 months left after the 象总网页 discussion meeting on 13 Apr 2008.

In actual fact, quite high priority still need to give to this matter even if the next target date is before SIXGA 75th Anniversary Celebration around end 2009 .....

Anyway, everyone of us just to do what we can help.

By the way who are 柳(国斌 !?)，吕 (瑞展?)，王(英再?). Right ?

if the Silk Road tour is arranged before the event, then I can come back in time for the

象总承办 ：第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛(新加坡) (10月20 - 26日)

另外棋一生先生会议后立刻马不停蹄的赶去Funan买了一个新款的笔记本电脑，准备为新加坡象棋做出更大的贡献。

having problem to post the article here as photo

yes, having problem to post photo ...

近期大家都在备战个人赛，估计6月中后可以开始增加sixga网站内容。
一刀大侠华文好，可以将主页的一些英文翻译成华文。