as mentioned by 水棋, it is better to look at both "positive views" and "negative views", but to a normal person, nobody will want their views to be labelled as negative.

In here, we may try to document some examples of xiangqi event results depending of having positive or negative thinkings .....

There were 20 主帖 posted in 悟入棋途 during the past one week (19 to 25 July 2008) as below :

Singapore Xiangqi Development -- Positive Thinkings vs Negative Thinkings .... － 齐启棋　300 bytes 2008-07-25 15:12 (15 reads)
Methods or Suggestions for 齐心协力 推动象棋！！！ － 齐启棋　227 bytes 2008-07-25 07:59 (21 reads)
也谈谈关于象棋的起源 ............. － 棋儒　3134 bytes 2008-07-24 17:43 (30 reads)
想知道新加坡有几个特大几个大师 － 太阳黑子　93 bytes 2008-07-24 15:58 (32 reads)
Reasons Why Singapore Open Organized in Boon Lay?? － 新加坡鸭子　549 bytes 2008-07-24 00:36 (47 reads)
What can a normal member do?? － 新加坡鸭子　1607 bytes 2008-07-24 00:36 (40 reads)
my first posting after 棋人生 ...... － 齐启棋　146 bytes 2008-07-23 18:36 (51 reads)
To版主:卷心菜 一刀n断 张辽 ........ － 齐启棋　124 bytes 2008-07-23 12:38 (52 reads)
“道泉茶叶杯”象棋明星赛开幕 吕钦赵鑫鑫等参赛 － 卷心菜　2330 bytes 2008-07-23 10:42 (20 reads)
the ugly of singapore － waterchess　46 bytes 2008-07-22 23:29 (45 reads)
personal views from one of the SIXGA ordinary members ...... － 齐启棋　1862 bytes 2008-07-22 18:53 (49 reads)
The Top Priority of Singapore Xiangqi ……… － 齐启棋　1271 bytes 2008-07-22 12:30 (49 reads)
The ugly side of Singapore Chess 2!!! － 新加坡鸭子　720 bytes 2008-07-21 16:38 (92 reads)
The ugly of singapore chess 1!!!! － 新加坡鸭子　437 bytes 2008-07-21 16:31 (58 reads)
新式象棋:中华国际象棋. 增加了一个“皇宫”及“牛”等棋子。 － 太阳黑子　702 bytes 2008-07-21 15:26 (31 reads)
炮士胜双士 － 炮卒　151 bytes 2008-07-20 20:47 (37 reads)
临危不乱,兄弟炮偷袭敌车得手 － 太阳黑子　468 bytes 2008-07-20 20:01 (25 reads)
Oct 2008 is a busy month for international events and next 5 months local events － 碧山　175 bytes 2008-07-20 10:24 (55 reads)
象棋双打对局(一刀N断/张辽 VS 几度/zyne) － 张辽　1014 bytes 2008-07-20 00:12 (74 reads)
新加坡那里有高手下棋？ － email123　94 bytes 2008-07-19 12:12 (38 reads)

From these 20 主帖,
how many are considered having negative thinkings ?
are these forumers with negative thinkings having the intention to improve the xiangqi development in Singapore ?
How the internet users looking at these 主帖 with negative thinkings ?
Anyway to improve the situation so that 悟入棋途 can contribute even better to the Singapore Xiangqi Development in future?

This is quite a major issue for discussion, but when I look at

几度 in early July 2008 talked about …..” ….. 卷心菜私下跟我感慨，说很多论坛都是从无到有，从小到大，人数从少到多，然后就开始骂战，最后就消亡了。大家一开始都是抱着热忱进来的，除了喜欢损人利己的，会有谁希望最后这样子收场呢？……”.

I hope I can help to do somethings as I still have a feel that I am part of 悟入棋途.

After all these efforts, of course the easier way for me is to ignore all the negative thinkings in this forum and only concentrate on the positive thinkings.

Anyway, one of the options is for me to leave this forum if I find that I could not contribute anymore to this forum.

nobody will want their views to be labelled as negative.

You may wish to learn from others closer to you.

You should not have any problem to study maximum of up to 20 forumers from these 20 主帖.

Of course, there are some ways of checking to help to identify those 帖 but I am unable to tell you the methods openly here.

as mentioned, I do not want to waste my energy in another hot discussion if any.


As a forumer in 悟入棋途, I have talked enough in this example and my wish is to move on to other examples if time permits, i.e by end July 2008 as planned.

You may ask why end July 2008 ?

Not for me to tell everythings, right ?

If you are still unable to get anythings from this example, it is better for you to ignore this example and move on too.


Just to reproduce the last three sentenses of my post earlier .....



I hope I can help to do somethings as I still have a feel that I am part of 悟入棋途.

After all these efforts, of course the easier way for me is to ignore all the negative thinkings in this forum and only concentrate on the positive thinkings.

Anyway, one of the options is for me to leave this forum if I find that I could not contribute anymore to this forum.

one of the 版主 has 送花 to my this example, at least one of the 版主 has agreed that I have done somethings in giving this example in 帮助网友创造良好的网络环境.

These are some of the methods used by 版主.

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应该是不需要对“每个不合适”的贴作remind。 － 卷心菜　110 字节 2008-07-24 12:00 (18 点击)

版主，又称“论坛志愿服务者”，利用附加工具“红色强调，置顶，删帖，送花，送华新币”帮助网友创造良好的网络环境。

In 2004 and before, all life members and ordinary members are qualified as candidates for the Elections of EXCO, the SIXGA constitution was changed in 2004 for many areas including the removal of life memberships.

Starting 2006, only candidates who agreed to stand for the elections are qualified.

to open the Bishan Xiangqi Club club house by 10:30 am.

You may wish to pay a visit to Bishan Xiangqi Club or SIXGA on one of the Saturdays when you are free.

the normal working methods in the offices/companies could not be applied here for volunteers.

For volunteers, we pay more attention to whether we could work as an happy team, we could not aim for 100 % results.

80-20 rules should be good enough, e.g. if you can spend 20% effort to get 80% members to join some activities, the remaining 80% effort should be spent in new areas instead of trying to get the other 20% members to join. We discussed this issue in the Bishan 4th EXCO 1st meeting held on 12 July 2008 and all members agreed that this should be the right approach, this is also one of the reasons that I do not really care about the negative views here in this forum as I am only work to serve the members and EXCO members of Bishan Xiangqi club and they will give EXCO members and me with direct feedback, I may list some examples later if time permits.

This is also one of the reasons that I did not take up the EXCO appointment in SIXGA EXCO in 2002 when elected as I could not affort to serve so many SIXGA members as compared to 50+ bishan members.

This is also one of the reasons that I respect whoever is taking charge of SIXGA as more effort are required and expected from them.

水棋 may still not happy with my reasons but I think I have spent more than enough times to discuss this matter and I have no plan to move up (to SIXGA EXCO) but instead I am planning to move down or out with a plan acceptable to Bishan EXCO members.

if we study

2004 SIXGA EXCO list (the last EXCO list under old election method)

with

2008 SIXGA EXCO list (the latest EXCO list under new election method)

9 EXCO members from 2004 list are still stay in 2008 EXCO list with 4 of them served as members without specific appointments, hope not all 4 are leaving at the end of this current term.

There are 8 EXCO members in 2008 list not from 2004 list, i.e. all 8 are considered as new or relatively new blood.

We should give our full or better support to this new SIXGA EXCO team of 17 members which will be having installation dinner on 31 July 2008.

Wishing all 17 SIXGA 31st EXCO team a smooth and fruitful 2-year term ! :)

http://bbs.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_11057308

before compiling a write-up, all subject to the inputs from the forumers here .....

【和尚与屠夫】
从前有一个和尚跟一个屠夫是好朋友。和尚天天早上要起来念经，而屠夫天天要起来杀猪。 为了不耽误他们早上的工作，是他们约定早上互相叫对方起床。
多年以后，和尚与屠夫相继去世了。屠夫去上天堂了，而和尚却下地狱了。
Why?
因为屠夫天天作善事，叫和尚起来念经，相反地，和尚天天叫屠夫起来杀生……

小哲理：
你做的东西是不是都是你认为对的，却不一定是对的。

很久很久以前，人类都还赤着双脚走路。


有一位国王到某个偏远的乡间旅行，因为路面崎岖不平，有很多碎石头，刺得他的脚又痛又麻。回到王宫后，他下了一道命令，要将国内的所有道路都铺上一层牛皮。他认为这样做，不只是为自己，还可造福他的人民，让大家走路时不再受刺痛之苦。


但即使杀尽国内所有的牛，也筹措不到足够的皮革，而所花费的金钱、动用的人力，更不知凡几。虽然根本做不到，甚至还相当愚蠢，但因为是国王的命令，大家也只能摇头叹息。


一位聪明的仆人大胆向国王提出建言：「国王啊！为什么您要劳师动众，牺牲那么多头牛，花费那么多金钱呢？您何不只用两小片牛皮包住您的脚呢？」国王听了很惊讶，但也当下领悟，于是立刻收回成命，改采这个建议。据说，这就是「皮鞋」的由来。


小哲理：
想改变世界，很难；要改变自己，则较为容易。
与其改变全世界，不如先改变自己--「将自己的双脚包起来」。
改变自己的某些观念和作法，以抵御外来的侵袭。
当自己改变后，眼中的世界自然也就跟着改变了。
如果你希望看到世界改变，那么第一个必须改变的就是自己。

「心若改变，态度就会改变；态度改变，习惯就改变；习惯改变，人生就会改变。」

你开着一辆车。
在一个暴风雨的晚上。
你经过一个车站。
有三个人正在焦急的等公共汽车。
一个是快要临死的老人，他需要马上去医院。
一个是医生，他曾救过你的命，你做梦都想报答他。
还有一个女人/男人，她/他是你做梦都想嫁/娶的人，也许错过就没有了。
但你的车只能在坐下一个人，你会如何选择？
我不知道这是不是一个对你性格的测试, 因为每一个回答都有他自己的原因。
老人快要死了，你首先应该先救他。
你也想让那个医生上车，因为他救过你，这是个好机会报答他。
还有就是你的梦中情人。错过了这个机会。你可能永远不能遇到一个让
你这么心动的人了。